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1943-D Mercury Dime, Variety Hunt RPM Miss (PCGS MS66fb).

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I took a chance on this MS66FB Mercury dime. The TrueView image showed an interesting pattern on the D mint mark. 1943-D has a known D-over-inverted-D variety. The leaf position didn't match on the mint mark, but I figured that if someone accidentally punched one upside down RPM, they could have easily punched two.

After examining under magnification, I think that this is just a die gouge mixed with some radial flow lines. However, I wanted to put it out there because 1. I think it's worthwhile to show that sometimes you strike out when variety hunting, and that's normal, and 2. it's always wise to get a few second opinions before deciding that a coin is ordinary.






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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/50869670
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Your first close-up really does look like a RPM. Woulda fooled me (which is really not that hard to do as I'm still learning...)
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RPM or not it is still a beautiful coin.

with Spence - had you showed that close up alone I would have said D/D RPM.
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1. I think it's worthwhile to show that sometimes you strike out when variety hunting, and that's normal, and 2. it's always wise to get a few second opinions before deciding that a coin is ordinary.


Very interesting example, thank you for sharing!


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RPM or not it is still a beautiful coin.
Indeed.
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Appears to be it, Stage C judging from the pictures, also has the same die crack near the wing tip. Excellent pick up!
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Appears to be it, Stage C judging from the pictures, also has the same die crack near the wing tip. Excellent pick up!
That settles it for me.
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Very nice RPM D/Inverted D Southeast. FS-501


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Are you sure? When I compare it to the three examples on PCGS, I see some subtle differences. I put a certified version on the right, it's the middle coin from this PCGS page:

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...pm-fb/929308

First, the D on my coin is shifted considerably left. Look at the gap to the stem. Also look at where the leaf tip is relative to the left edge. On mine, it looks inside the edge. On the certified version, it is to the outside.

Second, the position of the inverted D seems much higher up on the certified version.

Third, the obverse die crack seems to be at a slightly different angle.

I know that Die Deterioration can really change surface features. I also know that slight variations in camera angle can seemingly change where features appear to be relative to each other. Can this really be FS-501?


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Looking at your last close up pick, I feel like you have an RPM but it is definitely not FS-501 the location is not close and I see no matches on VV or Wexler. It would be a nice one to send in, congrats!
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Are you sure?

I neglected to compare the MM location and sure enough it is not a match to FS-501 MM location but it is a D/Inverted D Southeast
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I also agree it is a D over inverted D southeast, perhaps a slight die rotation that cause this variation? Send it in as suggested.
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perhaps a slight die rotation that cause this variation?
I do not understand this statement. A rotated die would have absolutely nothing to do with the mm placement or where the die markers would be. They are on the die, they would not move out of conjunction with the devices.
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You are right makecents, the mint mark was punched into the working die.
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If I were to send it in, where would I send it? VV, Wexler, CONECA, somewhere else? Do the attributers even evaluate coins in slabs?
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Perhaps going to the FUN show or one of the bigger coin convention will have few booth of expertise there that can help in evaluating.

Wexler's IMO is one option I would approach in sending to get attributed if getting to these bigger convention isn't a option, it isn't expensive, cost more to ship and insuring the coin, website detail coin examination service, it only indicate loose coins but nothing about evaluating coins in slabs which you have to inquire.

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