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US Treasury Ordered To Stop Producing New Cents

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Years of debate and speculation ending with a president getting bored and posting on social media in the middle of a Super Bowl. A Super Bowl that he insisted on attending in-person btw (Who knows how much that cost?).
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Can he do this without Congress?
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He's been trying to do a lot of things without Congress recently, we'll see if anyone tries to uphold the separation of powers on these issues or if they just give this to him.
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As much as I search cents, it's time....
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Might have to change your name to makenocents now :)
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Yes!
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I'm so glad!
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 Posted 02/10/2025  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I assume you will be as enthusiastic when he discovers how much more can be saved by converting 1,2 & 5 dollar bills to coins...

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs...er-money.htm
The lifespan of Federal Reserve notes varies by denomination and depends on a number of factors, including how the denomination is used by the public. For example, larger denominations such as $100 notes are often used as a store of value, which means they pass between users less frequently than lower-denominations such as $5 notes, which are more often used for transactions.


Denomination Estimated Lifespan*
$1 6.6 years
$5 4.7 years
$10 5.3 years
$20 7.8 years
$50 12.2 years
$100 22.9 years

coins
Coins can last around 30 years in circulation before they're too worn to use. When coins reach the end of their life, the Federal Reserve removes them from circulation. Old coins are melted down and used for other things.
Life of a Coin | Coin Classroom - United States Mint
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 Posted 02/10/2025  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JobIII to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a former coin roll hunter, I'm hopeful that the penny is not phased out. Also interested to see if Congress supports this. And then if the penny is no longer minted what that does for supply, and if there are runs on banks.

Also surprised there isn't a push to stop production or change nickels (and other coins) from cupronickel to something cheaper. And then start a metal recycling program to recoup the more valuable metals. Like what Canada does.

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When the Half Cent was eliminated back in 1857, it was worth $0.18 in today's money.

For comparison, the last time the cent had $0.18 in purchasing power was 1943. So the steelies would've been the last pennies if we had followed the precedent.

Pretty much the only reason the cent still exists today is because of the zinc lobby.
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Watch how fast the Mint takes the leftover 2025 Cents, rolls them up and sells 2 roll sets online for $19.95! "Get them before they are gone forever!"
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Can he do this without Congress?


Hey rlu7732:


The Supreme Court's golden rule: Only Republican leaders hold true power

https://www.salon.com/2022/01/14/th...-true-power/

The Supreme Court gave Trump leeway on executive actions. Biden wants the same treatment

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/24/poli...t/index.html

Why the Supreme Court may be open to Trump's push for expanded power

The Trump administration and the high court subscribe to a legal theory that grants extraordinary power to the president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...l-authority/


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we'll see if anyone tries to uphold the separation of powers on these issues or if they just give this to him.


Hey Tanman2001:

How the Supreme Court put itself in charge of the executive branch

https://www.vox.com/scotus/23791610...such-barrett br /

They already took over the executive branch and now are going after the legislative branch

US supreme court may revive doctrine that would curb federal agencies' power

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...upreme-court

The US supreme court may soon revive an obscure, pro-big business legal doctrine that could make it virtually impossible for the US government to develop new laws and regulatory rules that protect Americans.
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This looks like a thread to could really go off the rails rather quickly .
To throw a bit of humour into this ..forward to
2028 Congress introduces a bill . "Make Lincoln
Great Again " After a hiatus of 3 years the House
seeks the reintroduction of The Lincoln Penny .
The one cent coin should have ended years ago .
That said America ..enjoy the next 4 years ,you
are certainly entertaining the ROW !
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02/10/2025 12:51 am
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The Secretary of the Treasury has the power to stop minting of new coins, but he or she does not have the power to kill the denomination itself or demonetize it.

There are billions of them in change jars and piggy banks that remain legal tender until Congress changes it.

This situation is ideal for us "copper miners". The cents will still be around and this decision may get people to start to bring them in for redemption. That means more copper!!!!
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