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Commems Collection Canadian: A Look At Canada's Enameled NCLT Silver Dollars

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Canada's NCLT commemorative silver dollar series has been in existence for more than 40 years; its first issue was the 1971 British Columbia Centennial coin. For much of its history, the series was limited to "standard" silver dollars, in other words -- silver coins with no "bedazzling."

Things began to change in 2002, however, when the RCM plated one its commemorative silver dollars with gold and included it in a special edition proof set in honor of the 50th anniversary of Queen Elizabeth's ascension to the throne. A few years later, in 2005, the RCM initiated its ongoing series of selectively gold-plated silver dollars with the release of the coin marking the 40th anniversary of Canada's National Flag.

The Canada's Flag silver dollar was also released with selective enameling -- red enamel was used on the flag on the coin's reverse to create a more realistic depiction of it. The enameled version of the Flag commemorative dollar was a limited edition with just 5,000 coins produced; it was initially offered at $99.95 (the most expensive issue price for a single silver dollar up to that time). The coin proved popular with collectors, and enjoyed significant appreciation in value on the secondary market. I can recall the coin commanding prices in excess of $400 at one time. Today, successful bids for pieces offered via online auctions are more in the range of $200 to $250 -- still a premium over its release price.



The Flag dollar started a three-year run of selectively enameled silver dollars by the RCM. In 2006, an enameled version of the Medal of Bravery Special Edition silver dollar was available to collectors. Like the 2005 coin, its mintage was limited to 5,000 and its release price was $99.95. Also like the Flag dollar, the enameled version of the Medal of Bravery coin experienced strong collector support and escalating prices in the secondary market. For a time, its price was pushed above $300 but is now in the range of $120 to $150.



The third enameled silver dollar coin released was the 2007 Thayendanegea (Joseph Bryant) commemorative. As with the 2005 Flag dollar, it was available in "plain" silver, in a selectively gold-plated version and in an enameled version. The release price of the enameled coin was $129.95, a 30% jump over the previous year's coin. The maximum mintage for the coin was 7,500 (a 50% increase from the previous enameled issues) but sales amounted to just under 5,200. Whether it was the subject matter commemorated or the price increases imposed on all versions of the coin, sales for the issue across all options did not meet expectations. The enameled version never experienced any significant price appreciation on the secondary market, and can often be purchased today in the range of $100 to $125.



It looked for a time that the RCM may have decided to move away from enameled silver dollars as no new coins were offered in 2008 or 2009. In 2010, however, a Special Edition proof dollar was released to mark the passing of the last Canadian WWI veteran -- it featured red enamel on a single large poppy in the foreground with a field of poppies in the background. The use of the enameling is simple, effective and attractive. Mintage of the coin was capped at 5,000; its initial selling price was $139.95. The 2010 Poppy dollar has increased in value, with the coin currently selling in the range of $175 to $225 in online auctions.



These four coins make an interesting subset within the long-running commemorative silver dollar series. Will there be more? I wouldn't rule it out, but I'd be OK if this particular type of "bedazzling" was left to other collector coins.


Note: All secondary market selling prices quoted above are from recently completed online auctions; dealer asking prices may be different.

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Thanks for the showcasing! Informative and educational! I really like the poppy coin. It came out about the time I started casually collecting. Now I regret not getting a lot of the past issues.
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Nice presentation. Have you thought about submitting this as an article to the RCNA Journal, (with final mintage numbers)?
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I'm a fan and have two; chasing the other two. The poppy is my favourite of the four with the flag a close second.

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@SPP-Ottawa: I certainly could flesh this post out a bit and make it a more complete article. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm a Life Member of the RCNA and have been considering preparing a piece or two for The CN Journal, maybe this could be my first submission.

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I have all four. I am a big fan of the enamels. I wish the mint would get back to releasing one a year.

Did people complain about GP and enamel, and perhaps how it confuses what is the "premium" dollar?
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Personally, I can not appreciate how a splotch of red paint (enamel) increases the value of a $1.00 coin from the silver content (about $20) to the mint's asking price - $139.95 - to the final or secondary market value in the $200 range. I mean come on, enough already with the varieties.
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To be technically correct, these coins are not enamelled,
they are pad printed. Australia has issued a few of them as well.
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I can not appreciate how a splotch of red paint (enamel) increases the value of a $1.00 coin from the silver content (about $20) to the mint's asking price - $139.95 - to the final or secondary market value in the $200 range.


I don't believe it's the "splotch" that drives the variety's release price or its secondary market price. I see it as more of a case of the limited mintage of the variety.

The commemorative silver dollar series is the RCM's longest-running commemorative series. Over the years, it has built up a following within which are many collectors that look to keep their sets complete. When varieties or special editions are released in limited numbers (e.g., 5,000), there is generally more demand than supply - regardless of the specifics of the variety/SE. For example, The 2002 Queen Mother dollar is an example of a lower mintage (10,000) Special Edition silver dollar that saw significant value appreciation because of its subject matter and lower mintage -- it did not have any "splotches."

Compared to many of the current crop of "bedazzled" coins being put out by the RCM, I believe the silver dollar series attracts more traditional collectors. These collectors tend to work on completing a series or set vs. collecting a varied mix of coins without specific definition. So, when low mintage coins appear, competition for them is real.

Just my opinion...

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To be technically correct, these coins are not enamelled, they are pad printed.


No, actually they are enameled. A different process is used vs. the pad printing in Australia. My images may not have made it apparent, but in hand the difference is obvious.



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No, actually they are enameled. A different process is used vs. the pad printing in Australia. My images may not have made it apparent, but in hand the difference is obvious.


Is the enameling done via enamel paint or is the enamel ceramic and fired on the coin?
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Thanks so much for this post commems.

Darn Internet and credit cards. I may have to skip a few meals this week but now I only need one more to complete the set.
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Well done!! I am reducing my NCLT intake and the silver dollar is one of my favorite to keep.
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@CC-Ottawa: Glad I could help move your collection along!

@canadian_coins: Happy to hear that you'll be keeping your silver dollars. It's a great series with many great designs and lots of Canadian history lessons.

@trout1105: Not trying to be argumentative -- please excuse me if I came across that way -- just didn't want folks to get the impression these coins were simply painted. These coins have a very different look. To get the enamel effect, the RCM used a process by which it applied "a thick coat of glossy epoxy" to each coin to create a three-dimensional design with great color.


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To get the enamel effect, the RCM used a process by which it applied "a thick coat of glossy epoxy" to each coin to create a three-dimensional design with great color.


I may have to get one of these, Sounds like they would have a lot more eye appeal than a flat painted coin
I assume that the colour would have a better texture to it on these coins.
I have a few of the Aussie pad printed coins and I am not that impressed with them.
The selectively plated coins however are a big favorite of mine
the 2007 Thayendanegea looks spectacular
Do these suffer from that awful milk spot problem a lot of RCM coins get?
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I assume that the colour would have a better texture to it on these coins...Do these suffer from that awful milk spot problem a lot of RCM coins get?


The areas of colour on these coins definitely have a dimensional texture to them -- the transparent areas of dimensional colour on the Thayendanegea piece really make the design "pop."

I've seen the milk spot issue on the silver Maple Leaf coins but not on these proof coins.



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