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New Member
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My Eagle earned by gaming just arrived today and I have questions. Can an MS 70 graded coin come with a blemish? Is this common and does it affect the MS 70 grading?  |
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Your reply was split into its own topic for the proper attention. It is a good question and I did not want it to get lost in the bigger topic.  Reference topic: http://goccf.com/t/471498 |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Are you referring to the toning seen on the "TA" in "STATES"?
If "Yes," toning does not automatically reduce a coin's grade. It can, but it's not automatic.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
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MS70 can have slight imperfections. Coins can tone over time even if in a graded slab. That stain or toning could make it a little less desirable if you ever sell it. If you don't like it and the seller accepts returns, send it back for refund or exchange.
Edited by livingwater
11/23/2024 3:31 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Good advice, return it if you can. Commems is certainly correct, but I find this sort of toning quite detracting from a 70 coin.  to the CCF! |
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Thank you for your quick response. Do you suppose the blemish was there when the coin was originally graded and encapsulated? What about the dot? And will this spread out further on the coin eventually? If so, could the MS 70 grading be downgraded? Sorry for all the newbie questions. You guys are great  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Sarah, Few things come to mind viewing your American Silver Eagle: First, The coin or Bullion ASE shown has that Dot, Thats what I am focused on because what Ever it is, it does NOT look good, Almost like the " goldish tone looking " Total area was impacted or an " event " took place. Maybe during it's pre-slab life, someone sneezed, Human handling, ? The goldish area Would seem fine, if Not for that Necrotic Dot.  Slabs are " suppose " to be air-tite, IMO, it would not take much for Saliva, Oily finger-prints etc to show up, down the road.....  Maybe a Crisper, Closer photo of the Area, Thanks for sharing, Best Wishes, MD
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Do you suppose the blemish was there when the coin was originally graded and encapsulated? Possibly. As I mentioned before, toning is not a show-stopper when a third-party service grades a coin. Quote:
What about the dot? Difficult to know for certain - especially from images (vs. in-hand inspection). Quote:
And will this spread out further on the coin eventually? Difficult to know for certain - especially from images (vs. in-hand inspection). Quote:
If so, could the MS 70 grading be downgraded? If the dot grows significantly and/or proves to be corrosive, "Yes," the grade could possibly be lowered if resubmitted for grading. Quote:
Sorry for all the newbie questions. No worries. Folks often come to CCF because they have questions!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
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Your eyes will go straight to that spot everytime you look at the coin. I'd definitely return it.
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I'm struggling getting a detailed picture under 300kb.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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That dot sure looks like organic material starting to cause issues. I would request a replacement. Makes one wonder if the mint and NGC teamed up to get rid of all the bullion returns that the mint honored.
I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting |
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Pillar of the Community
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Some one working at NGC on those NiceGang Era 8 Privy slabs didn't care. . .The OP indicated she earned the Eagle by gaming. . .it has been in a slab less than 3 months.
I would try to get a replacement, especially if funds were expended to get it.
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11/24/2024 09:08 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Sarah, Thanks for the added picture. Great Job.. Your Newest picture shows Another Clearer Necrotic or Blackened spot on the Left Leg of the Letter A.......  Apparently the first picture has it too, just out of Focus, Same Problem . Have I seen Many slabbed coins with Unrealistic grades, Certainly. Does a Slabbed coin Guarantee the grade, Certainly Not... Do slabbed coins tone over time, Certainly. Best Wishes.... Edited by Morgans Dad
11/24/2024 10:50 am
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Hi Sarah,
Something definitely going on with the coin. Can you post a picture of the obverse and reverse of the entire coin and slab?
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Posted 11/23/2024 3:20 pm
