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Hello everyone I bought several coins about 25 years ago on the flee market and thought that lost them several years later. I found them some time ago so I'm trying to do some checkup.      This one looks like this 2 kopecks pattern, https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182132.html however when I compare them my coin looks fishy.... Edited by NumiFan 12/12/2024 07:42 am
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Sorry looks like cast copies. The 1563 one might be real but I'm not the expert on that one
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Edited by tdziemia 12/17/2024 08:17 am
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The 1784 EM 5 kopek is also suspect. The style is rather crude, even for the type, and there appear to be numerous casting marks.
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I thought the shape of the E was a little funky but that most of the rest looked ok. But looking more closely, maybe you're right. As for the surface, I just see corrosion/pitting, which is common...
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Agreed. That's why I have it as "suspect" and not "definite"
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I had hope that at least 1784 is fine as it's shape is not ideal so I thought that it can be indication that it's genuine, also not the rare coin. The Zygmunt II trojak was my biggest doubt as it looks really nice, too nice to be genuine I thought  It's not bad to get all of them for a dozen of bucks. If I can by some copies for really small price I do that in order to get more knowledge and experience so another pieces to my 'fakes' box  These last strange pieces doesn't look like coins I think. The grey ones seems to be made of hmmm something less solid than metal (I could do a scratch more easily), on the other hand they are pretty heavy, 22 grams + 27mm diemeter, 3mm thick. Maybe some kind of pilgrims' tokens or just a souvenir?
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Quote: The Zygmunt II trojak was my biggest doubt as it looks really nice, too nice to be genuine I thought The price of a dozen bucks for all of them sounds very low to get an authentic trojak like this one. Even 25 years ago it would have cost much more: https://wcn.pl/archive/2090?q=1563+trojakThe correct weight should be close to 3 grams (mine are 2.85 (1562), 2.99 (1563), 3.01 (1564)). Looking more closely, some small details like the beaded circle do not look quite correct (beads are too fat an irregular) ... maybe I was wrong on this one. (you can always take it to one of the many good Polish auction houses for an opinion: https://coinstrail.com/auctions/poland )
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The trojak's weight is 2.93g and the diameter is 23mm. Although I'm not experienced in ping testing, the sound seems nice as it's not flat.
I understand Your doubts regarding the beaded circle. On the other hand I've checked some pictures in www and some of coins have some irregularities.
It seems that I will have to contact with one of these numistores directly to be sure.
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