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So real or fake, its guaranted silver weight 25,9 grams Bought for melt as a lottery ticket. I believe these are faked in silver to Thankful for input   Edited by Moniker
05/23/2024 04:45 am
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United States
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It doesn't look right to me. Kind of primitive details and it doesn't look like it's made of silver. It's a little underweight-I'd also check the thickness and diameter to make sure. Here's an authentic one for comparison: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...02-ngc-ef-45 |
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United States
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Note the misspelling as well: "caindareens" instead of "candareens." These misspellings are often found on Chinese imperial coins, though.
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Thank you for input hard to get a grip on these coins  Same spelling  numista list differnt variations 38 (1901) Y#183a.1: #19985;#36763; 39 (1902) Y#183a.1: #23493;#22764; (dragon with coarse scales) 39 (1902) Y#183a.2: #23493;#22764; (dragon with fine scales) 40 (1903) Y#183a.2: #21359;#30328; 41 (1904) Y#183a.2: #36784;#30002; 42 (1905) Y#183a.2: #24051;#20057; (dragon with beady eyes) 42 (1905) Y#183a.3: #24051;#20057; (dragon with round eyes)   Edited by Moniker
05/23/2024 1:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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You're welcome. I'm not by any means an expert. I'd also run a magnet over it just in case.
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Australia
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Kirin coins are well known to be underweight despite mandated to be struck at a specific weight. This actually is within a typical kirin weight spec.
Do you have a photo of the edge?
I'm leaning towards not genuine at the moment.
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Thank you both for help There are small gouges in the fisheyes on reverse Would be interesting if its genuine Its not magnetic   Edited by Moniker
05/23/2024 6:11 pm
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I am curious how you can guarantee it's silver, because it sure doesn't look like silver to me. Yes, the Chinese fakemasters do sometimes make their fakes from real silver - but usually only their top-tier numismatic fakes, since they'd lose money selling these for near-bullion value if they were genuine silver. This is a coin type that might see numismatic forgeries made, as genuine examples are worth thousands. But you're not going to see these silver fakes just kicking around in a street stall or coin dealer's mixed bullion box. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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They test before they buy coins and don't want to buy/sell fakes. They deal with large volumes of gold and silver.But ofcourse errors can be made. It has large amounts of wear but that can ofcourse be faked
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05/24/2024 3:59 pm
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Sweden
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Well I acetoned it and it was very cold when I removed it It a sign of silver. So is it a silver fake or a real one  pcgs certified one seems primitive to  Edited by Moniker
06/01/2024 05:40 am
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United States
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The new pic and acetone bath are awesome.
Looks good to me: either a really good fake made of silver or an authentic coin.
Are you thinking about sending it in?
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thank you Mandrake, appreciate feedback.
Idk if its worth it, coin is maybe in vf condition? I don't know the value on these
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a brief update, I have narrowed down the example to a 1904 (1904)#30002;#36784; $1 LM-552 Sm Char (Regular Strike) a variant of the regular strike with small charachters (if genuine ofcourse) the character around the circle is smaller than on the regular Havent send it to pcgs yet since its a pain to do so and expensive, would be fun if a 20$ coin was the real deal here is a certified one of the same type that sold at stacks   Edited by Moniker
02/24/2025 07:22 am
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