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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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@ trout1105: When a collection grows quickly as yours seems to be doing, it can be twice as much work maintaining a data base, especially if you have other time consuming obligations. I just put all of the information relating to the coin on the cardboard of the 2x2, if the coin inside justifies it, for whatever reason.
When you have a lot of slabbed coins they need to be stored and arranged in a logical way, so they can easily be found. a supporting data base may help this direction, especially when it comes to records of when acquired and how much was paid for the coin. That information may be very useful if the coin is being sold again. I too write on the 2x2's that are stored in 14 archival type albums . I also have a couple of slab albums for my silver proof 25mm dollars. I also update my set registry for my various sets on the PCGS website and all my other slabbed coins reside in various "Blue Boxes" that I get from PCGS that are labelled so I know what is in the various boxes. My Maundy sets are stored in this   I have a rough idea of what I have in my collections and know roughly what I paid for each coin and if I decide to sell any coins I have "Bluesheet" and other websites I can use as a guide to the current values. Having a database listing every coin I own would be booring for me as I really enjoy discovering forgotten acquisitions when I browse through various albums  Also as my collecting aims are constantly changing/evolving and I sell some of my coins to help fund them it would be a real pain in the butt having to update a database accordingly. I much prefer a "Free Flow" approach with my collecting because it is after all a hobby and not an occupation. I get a lot of satisfaction and enjoyment collecting this way and if I had to maintain a database it would cease to be fun for me and would be just another chore that I would loose interest in rather rapidly. Each to their own guys But creating and maintaining a database for my coins is something I really couldn't be bothered with.
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Valued Member
United States
72 Posts |
I use Collector's Assistant software. I have coins to sell coins for my personal collection, rolls both Canada and US as well as bullion. Mint sets, proof set and products from RCM and USMint. I can record pictures and what I paid as well as get an idea of what it is worth. I can print labels for various coins (great for labeling safety flips) and know exactly where things are: Album, binder, roll box, Mint storage box, proof set box, #storage drawer etc. I was able for a small fee to transfer from another software program (CoinManage). He is able to do custom work as well. I can sort by date, item number, condition how the coin is graded ( PCGS, NGC, ect)Whether you need this or not will depend on how many coins you have and what you're budget is and how much sorting you need. The software is made by Carlisle Development. Spread sheets make me batty! But for some this works fine. I have EZ Stamp for my stamps and really enjoy this program as well. They have a EZ Coin Program. Someone in another topic ended up going with numismatic notebook II. It has a free and a paid version and runs on mac and pc. Let us know how things turn out!
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Valued Member
United States
398 Posts |
I'm so old fashion that at best I keep my receipts - I do have a nice stack of the, but otherwise I wing the whole thing ..... I put together my albums and have spare coins I may trade or sell but otherwise I really don't care and am just enjoying collecting .....
When I started in 1962 the only computers were, well there wasn't any except for mainframes, so pencil and paper were about it ....
Takes 21 days to form a habit and a lifetime to break it!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
992 Posts |
Simplest inventory is an Excel spreadsheet, mine is country name, catalog number, year, mint, denomination, composition, troy ounces if any, quantity, value, and remarks. I don't track cost, anything over a year is long-term gains and heirs, if any, receive a stepped-up basis, the 'angel of death' rule.
I keep one copy of the inventory on a thumb drive that is in the collection boxes, it gets updated whenever I open the safe, the other is on the computer, just update and 'save as'. About twice a year I swap out another thumb drive a friend keeps for me, just in case the house burns down. I keep a drive for him, too.
Building the inventory from scratch isn't too bad, just get started, that's the main thing. You'll find if you start on your backlog, the collection, and endeavor to add anything new as soon as you acquire it, you will work the backlog down to zero in short order. I found taking care of one box of stuff when I added anything to it worked out fine. I got to all of the boxes in less than a year, only devoting an hour or so at a time.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21593 Posts |
My collection is of a very diverse nature, covering all of the 26 centuries since the invention of coinage. It does not lend itself easily to being supported by a data base.
On the other hand, those who have a comprehensive photographic record of their collection, a data base for these would be essential. Photographs lend themselves wery well to arrangement in a data base, when those photograps are stored digitally.
EVERY coin in my collection is fully described on the 2x2 in which it is housed. The coins are roughly arranged in order of their age. There are minor subdivisions where required in the collection, according to the culture in which the coin was created.
For me, maintaining a data base would be 'work', not fun. I just love my collection, and the visual reviewing of it is the best way of remembering what is in it.
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
4934 Posts |
What organization? What techniques?
Every so often (about 3-4 times per year), I go through the nearest available part of my collection and list all the coins. Country, date, denomination, approximate grade. Sometimes also place of purchase and price paid, if I still remember. (For some reason, this latter addition is a lot more common when I'm writing (typing) at the computer, rather than with pen and paper.)
Note where I said "nearest available part". Each of these listings is not comprehensive, nor even intended to be (except for the specific small section it's a listing for). Only one of them was intended to be anywhere near comprehensive (to an extent) - the listing for May 23, 2013, when I apparently was actually serious about describing every single coin I could find (except, for some reason, those that had no date); I recently found its second sheet of paper, for coins 302-372, in several dirty pieces, and retyped the information on my computer before the pieces could end up being mistaken for trash and thrown away. The first sheet, which would have had coins 1-301 and a date chart, had been missing for over two years.
I do try to save every single receipt. As in, every single receipt period, including those from food shops and the like (even those for a can of Pepsi bought from a street kiosk). This takes up so much space (overfilling one of my jeans' pockets) that every few months I'm forced to put the old bunch of receipts somewhere else, and I have no idea what happens to them later. And, ironically, at least 90% (probably more) of the LCSs I shop at don't give out any receipts anyway (and much of the rest only give out very generic "X amount of money" receipts, often indistinguishable from those for food except by rounder amounts, and certainly very similar to each other; I certainly cannot recall ever, anywhere, getting a receipt for a purchased coin that actually listed anything about said coin except its price, but at least some especially progressive shops list different coins as separate items).
The fact that much of my supposed collection had been lost in assorted apartment reorganizations (or just because I plain forgot where I put some bag, and it got covered with lot of other stuff put there later) does not help either. I really should sit down and write a reasonably comprehensive listing - including date of purchase, place bought, price paid, and such, where I still remember - at least for those parts of my collection that I can get a hold of easily. Maybe it should be a project for the third anniversary of the original 2013 listing; but I'd rather prefer to do it in March (or April) and not wait until May.
...And yet, with all of that, I still think that what I have is a collection, not an accumulation. Not really sure why. Sorry.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
937 Posts |
For years I was 'The custodiene of records' for one of the largest firearms wholesale/retailers on the east coast of the U S. I could tell you where, when, who, and how much for every rifle, shotgun, and handgun bought or sold by that company since 1968. This was before the internet or widespread personal computers. This was my job.
So, do you think my collection, my grip on reality and sanity is going to be made into a job? No, I don't think so!
I have a complete and orginized want list. It is hand written in my old Day Timer. I can tell you what I need and if you want to know what I have we will go to my collection and enjoy looking at and talking about what I have.
I have no heirs, just my wife. We live in our 'Woman Cave' with our dogs. We enjoy the coins just fine without knowing exactly when where and how much on each and every one.
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New Member
Australia
36 Posts |
I'm a long-time collector who has recently put collection inventory software on the web so you can imagine which side of this discussion I'm likely to take.
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Admittedly, it is time-consuming to enter the data - and especially to do the photography (scanning is easier) but if you actually enjoy collecting isn't that time well spent ? So some tips for reducing the effort: - If you are using Excel, don't try pasting pictures into the spreadsheets - they make the file too large, slow everything down and don't react well to filtering or resizing cells. Instead just enter the file name (limit one per cell) prefixed with file:// eg file://C:\IMAGES\98900o.jpg. This lets you see the image simply by clicking the cell. - Assign your coins record numbers with plenty of gaps to allow for future additions and use the same numbers in the file names of any photos you take. - Use a standard format for dates - these still sort correctly in Excel and can be imported later should you wish to upgrade to a more sophisticated system later. - When you do upgrade to a database system, choose one that lets you import your data so that you don't have to go through all the effort again (it's only fun once).
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Valued Member
United States
156 Posts |
I previously thought that my collection was too small to warrant any organization. You have all just changed my mind. Thanks.
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Valued Member
United States
71 Posts |
I guess my advantage is that my collection is currently still pretty small. Most of the coins that I've acquired recently have their purchases documented, and most everything I get is either slabbed or raw with an intention of being slabbed. My original collection was quite small and specialized, and while I have most of it, the extent of it was low-grade common coins. As of right now, I have not actually figured out what I am going to focus on. Mostly, what I am looking at are higher grade coins in a more moderate price range. To that extent, my collection is housed in a couple of chipboard slab boxes, at the moment. I do plan on building something akin to a library catalog, as I do have some decent woodworking skills. However, that is a project that is going to wait a while as I am recovering from a double surgery and am on strict no-lift restrictions for the next month or so.
On the aspect of cataloging, I am not settled on what I am going to do. I've looked at spreadsheets, and I've looked at the commonly used applications. Nothign has really tripped my fancy yet, though. For that, I blame my profession. I've been in the software industry for about twenty years, and am an engineering lead at the moment - having given up management to go back into the trenches, where I belong. Part of what that means to me is that I always look at what I can write for my hobbies, from a coding perspective. I already have some roughed out database schemas and ideas around features that I would like in an application that I do not find in the ones that I've evaluated. We'll see if it progresses further than an "itch" to write something. Having done this for as long as I have as a profession, I simply do not have the motivation to recreationally code like I used to.
I love this thread, though. It is nice to see what other people do in both physical storage and cataloging. So many knowledgeable people with creative solutions that I would not have otherwise though of.
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Moderator
 United States
157664 Posts |
Quote: I guess my advantage is that my collection is currently still pretty small. Certainly. You are in a pretty good position no matter what solution you choose. 
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Valued Member
Australia
253 Posts |
Some great ideas there; thank you for sharing. I am interested in labelling my 2x2s. Is there an accepted standard format for labelling them? The coins I am mounting in the 2x2s are mainly Australian circulating decimals. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
4934 Posts |
Quote: The first sheet, which would have had coins 1-301 and a date chart, had been missing for over two years. I found and photographed it many years later, but apparently didn't bother to retype - probably partly because by then I had misplaced the 302-372 file. Here's a partial section, with a few lines covered by a euro cent for scale... 
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Valued Member
United States
157 Posts |
Quote: Is there an accepted standard format for labelling them? Nope, put down whatever is important to you, or helps you record what you have (and don't have!). There's always the usual stuff (issuer, denomination, etc), but beyond that, whatever floats your boat. I for one, don't generally record what I paid for a coin, others do. The one thing I'm always looking to do, is recording catalog number(s) (KM, N, Adamo, RIC, whatever), since that number automatically incorporates just about everything else: year, country, material, mintage number, etc.
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Valued Member
United States
289 Posts |
I've been looking at "CoinManage Deluxe" ... very interesting. It also comes with a currency component as well.
Anybody with experience here ?
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