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This one is bound to cause a bit of controversy. There are a few years of Jeffersons that are incredibly difficult to find nice strikes. 1967 is one of them. There are ZERO full step examples available. That's right! NGC and PCGS have a population of zero FS examples. NGC only has 40 examples above MS66 and PCGS only has 6 Graded above MS66. How would you grade it  and what do you think NGC graded it.  Is it an SMS coin? Thanx as always!!!   Edited by captainkurt
02/18/2025 6:27 pm
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I'm gonna go with NGC gave you MS 67, and not an SMS nickel.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll guess MS-65. Looks like a Business Strike to me.
Errers and Varietys.
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Very poor strike on the reverse. A lot of chatter on both obverse and reverse, however not in the fields. Given that the fields are so sharp, I would grade 64/65.
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Looks like Tom had his wisdom teeth pulled....  65 to me |
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I think it's a SMS, but anxious to see what NCG had to say..
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Looks like a terrible strike but probably an MS piece. With that strike and the reverse hits my guess is MS65. The huge images (on my screen) are 10x larger than would be used for grading. My guess would be business strike as well.
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Definitely a business strike. Radial flow is evident on the reverse, particularly amid TICE below the building foundation. Also the start of PIDT curving above both building wing roofs and below FIVE CENTS. Lousy definition on the portico roof and semicircular window, big bag mark right in the doorway. Steps are mangled on the die. Polishing or Die Deterioration is evident on the obverse facial profile, even on the eye. I would guess polishing because the cravat is almost gone, reduced to a little knob. Bag mark right on the ear and a scrape right behind the eye. Many little rim dings as well. The lettering is still well defined on both faces. Most years, I think that would grade as an MS65 coin. For 1967-and because you implied that we might be outraged by the grade—I would expect something suitably shocking like MS66+. Maybe it has spectacular luster in hand. Edited by Brandmeister
02/19/2025 11:25 pm
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Brandmeister, Your nickel evaluations are always on point! It was the excellent luster on this coin that had me thinking it was mislabeled as a business strike. Quote:
Radial flow is evident on the reverse, particularly amid TICE below the building foundation. Also the start of PIDT curving above both building wing roofs and below FIVE CENTS. Great diagnostics to look for when trying to decipher a business strike! Die polishing/deterioration seems to be the issue with the 1960's Jeffersons. What a horrible decade for the nickel. I think you are right on with the MS65 grade. I only see a couple MS66's in PCGS slabs that have this many bag marks. Overall, I am happy at $17 shipped! I think it was priced as an SMS. There are not too many 1967's available that look this great in hand for under $100.  Here is a PCGS MS66 that is similar.  |
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Can I use this post to ask a possible dumb question? Where there any proof strike nickels in 1967 or were there just business and SMS? Thanks
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Sorry..I withdraw the question!!
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For $17 shipped, that is a superb coin and grade! Major score on that deal, congrats. =)
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In my experience, it's unusual to find a NGC graded MS Jefferson that ISN'T MS66. The one you posted is very nice for 1967. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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In my experience, it's unusual to find a NGC graded MS Jefferson that ISN'T MS66.  With twice the population of MS66 from NGC compared to PCGS, oh, I see what you did there 
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Posted 02/18/2025 8:48 pm
