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| Hello I Have A Question About $20 St. Gaudens From The Afterlife
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VestedPocket
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Canada
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 Posted 11/18/2024 5:27 pm
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I noticed today that something is off with this coin. The rim looks like a wire rim when I compared this coin next to two other coins side by side. I will take a clear picture and try to show you. Can a 1927P have a wire rim edge?
I'm not able to add any images. Any help would be appreciated. The upload image link doesn't seem to open the popup window that it used to open. |
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| 1929 $2.50 Gold Quarter Eagle; Is This A MS63?
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
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Posted 10/12/2024 11:25 pm
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Thank you all for your replies.
I wonder if NGC would reholder it so I can have it in the newer holder with the QR code or if they may not accept the grade even though it was graded by NGC?
Does the carbon spot appear with time or would it have been there during grading? I noticed the black spot is actually like a heart shaped hole internal in the coin surface. I'd like to get a better photo and will try if the microscope can show it.
The coin that I am comparing this one to is not in the pictures above. I noticed on the coin that the feathers also were slightly rubbed out but not as highly as this one.
Would you suggest that I send it to NGC for reholdering?
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| How Do You Verify Your Coin? ;-)
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
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Posted 10/07/2024 12:32 pm
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Wow, very interesting answers.
I was thinking about this from a risk stand point per se. Like everytime we buy a coin for numismatic purposes, it is a 'potential' investment for we don't know what might aspire in the future for that specific coin.
For example, when we talk about high mintage, it is all relative to the amount in circulation and this depends on how much are melted, lost at sea etc all depending on demand/supply for a specific metal type during a specific time. Since we don't know the future, there is always the probability that an event could cause a certain category of high mintage to be completely depleted to low mitnage (like the mint melting them for example).
So like when one buys a $10 coin, the risk is $10. I was wondering what mindset one should have when buying the coin; should it be one of risk mitigation at all times regardless of the type that you invest thereby creating it into a habit so that when one advances and purchases more expensive coins the habit is already engrained or if this approach should only be applied at certain times like when dealing with more expensive items and whether this would make one slightly vulnerable to error?
Also if one purchases with the mindset of innocent until proven guilty is this a better approach than guilty until proven innocent while studying in this field.
There is a range of collectors here all from amateurs to experienced so I thought it would be interesting to see if the habits are different among different experience levels.
Really interesting answers and I'm learning alot.  |
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| Is This Legit? Rim File, Scratched Number, Real Or Fake, MS62 Australian One Sovereign 1887m
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
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Posted 10/07/2024 12:25 am
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@HondoBoguss: Wow I learnt a new word today! Thank you. I did not know about pareidolia. I was wondering whether the surfaces seemed to give the impression that numbers were engraved because of the way the light was hitting it. This is why I mentioned it in the post. I haven't come across engravings on coins often.
@manosgerms: I am not sure what to do; I am trying to figure out whether this is a good investment for the price point. The uneven surface of the rim which is visible to the eye from the photo is what I am trying to understand. The surface of the coin other than the smaller area of the uneven rim is beautiful and mint state. I do agree with you that this coin was in circulation before it was stored away. What I am trying to decide is whether or not this coin is a keeper given the uneveness of the rim; I am thinking about if and when it comes time to sell it, would the uneveness negate the grade to the collector.
I also found out through ANA that there are variations for the British sovereign and I am wondering if the Australian also have variations. Would you know anything about this and if there is any website specific for Australian numismatics that I can reference?
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A big thank you for helping me in this study.
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| 1999 Gold Eagle $5 How To Test When Holdered?
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 11:59 pm
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Thank you all for your replies ;)
@Freespeech57: I agree with you. I don't see why I should remove it from the holder. My only challenge is that there are no photos for this coin on NGC's database so there is no way to cross check if this is the coin that they graded. Is it normal for the reverse labels of NGC to age like in the images of the reverse?
@Coinfrog: The patches that appear to be silvery due to the differences curvature and heights of the surfaces and how the lighting hits thems and creates areas of shadows. Adding to it, the surface is very clean with not scratches so it is highly reflective. Atleast this is what I understand from observation and analysis.
Thanks,
Vestedpocked |
| | Forum: US Commemoratives and Non-Circulating Coinage (NCLT) Including Grading, Varieties, and Errors |
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| How Do You Verify Your Coin? ;-)
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 9:18 pm
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let the polling begin!! 
When you come across a coin, what's your first reaction to it? Do you assume it is fake and then try to figure out whether this is true or do you assume it is real and then try to verify if it is true?
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| 1924 Peace Dollar VAM Help Dot In Tierra And Circle In Rays
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 5:53 pm
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On the reverse, the beginning of the rays at about 5 o'clock; something looks different on them.
The coin looks to have a great strike so your rays should be solid but if you look at where the begin,, you will notice that the rays are thinned out in the middle....not sure if I am explaining myself correctly.
But maybe the reverse is a doubled reverse?
A beautiful find nonetheless!!
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| 1985 Mexico NGC Graded Photos Not Matching
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 3:12 pm
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Hello,
I was checking through the replies and noticed one went unreplied.
John1: You asked what I am using for the photos.
I am using an Epson Perfection V600 Photo scanner set at 1200dpi (If you have a newer scanner, use the highest setting). Also I use the Marquee tab in the scanner to select the area to be scanned. Custom preset setting for the holders are 4in by 4in.
The image files are quite bulky so to reduce them to 300kb and under I open them in GIMP.
Under the Image tab, there is an option to scale the image. You want to make sure the link for height and width is locked. Rule of thumb is reduce the larger of the two dimensions to about 500-800 px (for 2.5MB+). Then you go to file and click 'export as' and save it. Sometimes the file saves as .png In this case I click rename on the file and delete .png and type .jpg.
Sorry if this is a very long explanation. Hope someone benefits from it.
Also, I don't know how to reply to a specific person who asks a question in the thread so I am replying this way.
Thanks,
Vestedpocket
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| 1999 Gold Eagle $5 How To Test When Holdered?
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 2:11 pm
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Hello everyone,
I hope this is the right section for this post. I am studying a 1999 Eagle G$5 graded MS70. I really like this design; the eagle bringing back food to its young ones is beautiful. I have a question though. I checked surface details and all checks out. Nothing out of the blue.
My only question is: the sigma is not reading it because it is too small and because of the air gap. What do people usually do for these coins that are holdered? Do you have ti break them out to check for authenticity?
What do you suggest?
I will be posting a video of this on my Youtube channel: Vestedpocket so if you want to join me in my studies, meet me there ;)
Thank you,
Vestedpocket.
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| | Forum: US Commemoratives and Non-Circulating Coinage (NCLT) Including Grading, Varieties, and Errors |
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| Is This Legit? Rim File, Scratched Number, Real Or Fake, MS62 Australian One Sovereign 1887m
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/06/2024 1:51 pm
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Hello,
Hope you all are having a  awesome day!
I am studying a 1887M 1 Australian Sovereign Jubilee Head graded MS62 NGC.
A couple of observations:
1) This coin shows rim filing on the obverse and reverse at the 9 o'clock mark. While initially it appears that it may have been dinged from falling, upon inspection under a microscope and loupe, there is a directional diagonal pattern which appears to be from filling. This is seen both on the front and back.
2) There appears to an engraving of 416 or 412 on the ten o'clock mark. This is visible to the eye (it is very small in size) however when scanned, it does not clearly show in the images.
2) Sigma test is good for the reverse; the obverse doesn't register but it appears this is so because the holdering of the coin has created an air gap about 2-3mm length.
3) Under the microscope, on the obverse, around the 12-2 o'clock mark, there appears to be some items settled on the coin; from the time of use of the coin.
Question:
1) Why did this coin get a MS62 grade? Doesn't rim filling of the coin drop its grade to details? And what about engravings? So how could this have passed the graders and is this coin a keeper at the current grade and state?
2) The substrate on the coin appears to be overlaid instead of embedded within. Therefore I conclude that it is the settling of foreign items. The microscope does give more detail and under it because of the magnification the 'settled dust' gives the illusion as if the there was white material inside and then a foil wrapped over. This would however leave marks of wear and tear where the foil meets the materials but in this case I do not see this. I therefore conclude this to be dust that has settled and was not removed during the grading. Is this a fair evaluation regarding the dust/foregin material on it?
3) Given the rim damage, the coin will probably never get an upgrade so the only thing is for this coin to remain holdered. Why did it get this grade though is baffling me.
4) The dragon's two legs/arms that are by the 4-5 o'clock position; the nails are not attached to the arm; The third nail on the top arm and the middle nail of the bottom arm. Is this normal?
5) How do I know for sure that this coin is real? I haven't observed the type of chatter that one would see as in the British fakes. Are the nails hanging into oblivion space of the coin a reason for concern of authenticity of the coin?
6) If anyone is familiar with the Australian sovereigns please do share me with me your insights.
I will be making videos of these studies on my Youtube channel: vestedpocket so if anyone is interested please do join me there.
Thank you,
Vestedpocket
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| 1985 Mexico NGC Graded Photos Not Matching
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/05/2024 10:49 pm
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Hello Everyone,
Thank you all for your replies! I really appreciate all the help and feedback. I collect all the different slabs more predominantly PCGS and NGC but I am curious about the pictures.
The first two photos (grey background) are the reverse and the obverse of the coin. The last three photos are screenshots from NGC website. It is in these photos that background looks very unlike NGC and therefore I was curious if it is possible that someone holding the slab could have uploaded the pictures? As you see the background is uneven (last three photos). The reverse of the coin on the NGC website is also of the wrong coin. So because of two of these factors that stand out, it makes me wonder  whether someone other than NGC can upload images.
How do we know if photos are uploaded by NGC or maybe someone holding them and uploading them when they create sets on NGC websites? Any ideas?
Thank you all for your replies so far!
Vestedpocket
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| Hello I Have A Question About $20 St. Gaudens From The Afterlife
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VestedPocket
New Member
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted 10/02/2024 12:01 am
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Hello everyone,
Thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate your input.
jacrispies: Today I checked other NGC holders and saw that the older generation holders have the melting / glue on the sides. So I realized that this is the same and I feel more assured about the holder being authentic. As for the grade, I am still learning. I find it harder to grade the gold coins that silver because of the reflection of the light. I find sometimes the color of the gold and the light reflection 'fools' the eye. Maybe just me or just need more training with the eye.
Coinfrog: Going forward, I'll upload the photos right side up. I just upload whatever the scanner scanned.
Slider23: I did have concerns about the features of the obverse like the strike being average or less. Do you know any books I can reference to learn about the strikes for the Gaudens?
As with regards to the strike, are there any online references or books that anyone can recommend that chronicles the strike pressure on the dies for various years?
I find that the strike on the gold coins appears to be much softer sometimes and I think it is the effect of the light hitting the surface and being reflected back. Any suggestions on lighting? I read incandescent. What do you use?
Thank you!
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