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Who Minted It Better? 2019-W Vs 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proofs

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In this corner at 40.60 millimeters and weighing in at 31.103 grams, the reigning champ from New York, "don't tell his mother he's been hanging around with Canadians", the 2019W Enhanced Reverse Proof!

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And in this corner, also measuring an astounding 40.60 millimeters and weighing in at a whopping 31.103 grams, the California Kid, "see you on order day", the 2019S Enhanced Reverse Proof!

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Looks like a draw. Rematch?
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Looks like a draw. Rematch?

There's just been a lot lately on the King or Queen between these two. The S is definitely more exclusive. To me the King will always be the 95W. Although slightly more produced, because of how it was attained and packaged, makes it pretty exclusive in it's own right. $999 in 1995 to buy the set. VS what was the price of the 19S ERP, something like $70? So it wasn't affordability, just luck, which is why I had the "boxing emmcee" saying "see you on order day".
But in general, on the above pics, yes they are really close. I'd normally just give it to the S mint, they always do an outstanding job.
I think I know what they haven't used Denver to make them. As I like to say, " I wouldn't trust Denver to make a decent looking 1/4" washer"
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The San Francisco version is the priciest ASE in my current collection. . .I wasn't collecting at the time of its release (same for the 2020 W V75 proof).
The Reverse Proof ASE's -- 2011 P, 2012 S, 2013 W, 2021 W, 2021 S -- along with the 2013 W Enhanced Uncirculated are beautiful "welterweight" champs, to use Gilly's boxing metaphor. The 2019 Enhanced Reverse Proofs are indeed "heavyweights." In my view of the ASE world, the GOAT is and always will be the 1995 W.
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They're both beautiful additions to any collection. To break the tie, you might have to go the TPG route, and see which one grades higher!
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They both very nice.
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As stated, The West Point Mint Has become a Wonderfully Competent, Consistent, Quality Top Tier Mint for All Our every day Collectibles,....


Then Since 1968 The Granite Lady, The San Francisco Mint, Takes the Proverbial Prize home for IMO, Always bringing High Quality, Consistent, Exceptional , High Quality Struck coins.Medals for a Dependable Outstanding Difference, Every Single Time......
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I'm closer to the West coast - so San Fran wins out (If I'm forced to make a choice)
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Capt Stated " the GOAT is and always will be the 1995 W. "

Referring to the 1995-West Point minted Proof American Silver Eagle, I Love the Topic,

Speaking of Let's Congratulate the Capt, On Completing an American Silver Eagles Collection Set, Well Done Capt ,

Let us Converse, There are decisions made by " certain " entities that Drive and Fuel what Coin Collector's seek. There are those that are Coin Collectors that Use or Employ these Listed stats if you will.

These coins that are Listed in order of their Known mintage's have collectors attention, These Listed stats are What We Collectors Generally believe to Hold dear ( some do not ), A Prominent Place in the Heir-Archy of Its Peers, Coins Generally have been Consistent in Following this Heir-Archy, Most Coins that Hold an Upper Position in the American Silver Eagles Bullion Program have Differed with that " Norm ".

While I use my memory for most stats, But I also use a Hard Copy library Referenced Above book, I Love Books. The Listed Mintages shown are as follows : * While both coins mention They have Not yet a had Final audit).

The 2019-San Francisco Version - Enhanced Reverse Proof mintage- 29,909

The 2019-West Point Version- Enhanced Reverse Proof Mintage- 99,675

Clearly the S Minted version, Should hold a Higher Listed Position, Lower Mintage= Higher Listed Position.

However, In that Same series The Reigning King The 1995-West Point Proof, Holds a Differing View. The 1995-W has a Known mintage of 30, 102.

After a re-Auditing the U S Mint's own numbers show the old Thought to be " known " mintage ", of The 1995-W of 30, 125, Was Not accurate, Hence the newer Known mintage .( 30,102 ).

Back to my point, Clearly above numbers show the lowest mintage example taking its place in the Upper Listed Position , Or do They. The 2019-S mintage is Lower in Mintage by 193, How did this Happen, .....?

There are Some Here that Called Me out on This, Remember Who?

I believe the 1995-West Point Proof release was Historic in a Few ways,One is It is in a class of it's own With it being The Only American Silver Eagle Proof being offered, In No other Way than, in a Set, That included 4- Gold Coins Too. ( Thanks Gilly...) !!!!

Why then is the 2019-S Enhanced Reverse Proof Not in The Top Listed Position , Above The 1995-W,........ Your Thoughts....
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It is in a class of it's own With it being The Only American Silver Eagle Proof being offered, In No other Way than, in a Set!!!!

You sure you don't want to rethink that?
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I worded that Very Poorly, Thanks Gilly, Sets with Unique Members abound in the American Silver Eagle Series....
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The main one, strictly being a proof, was the 2017S, although that was 2 sets, not one, but not available as a single clamshell issue. You could make a case that the Congrats set was a single coin, but the mint calls it a set.
There were other special finishes that were only in sets, plus the only Uncirculated finish S which was only in a set.
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The 2011-5-Coin set has Many Stars in it, ....
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The 2011-5-Coin set has Many Stars in it

If I recall, only 2 that were only in that set, reverse proofs? I'll look...
Edit: yes the 2011P reverse proof, and of course the 2011 S Uncirculated, the only non W Uncirculated. The other three were available other than this set
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