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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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Hi all, would like to know your opinions on this piece, thanks in advance. Weight is 27.25g.  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5189 Posts |
I believe it's fake. 1877 Trade dollars should have a type 2 reverse, and this one has a type 1 reverse. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3188 Posts |
Why isn't this coin in a holder? PCGS or NGC should be grading a $10,000 coin.
The eagle's head doesn't match real 1877-CC examples. Especially the gaping bill and the round eye, which look more like an 1875-CC.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
12/21/2024 09:38 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Agree with Zurich, the last year for a type 1 reverse was
in 1876 so this has to be a counterfeit.
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12/21/2024 4:50 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm sure you guys are right. I really have no idea.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4376 Posts |
100% fake as noted by Zurie above. The type 1 reverse was only used on Trade dollars in 73, 74, 75 and 76. The type 1 features on reverse are the neck feathers, arrow tip position above 420, leaf position between the O and F and design of arrow feathers. |
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Valued Member
United States
482 Posts |
My Trade rev crib:  |
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Valued Member
United States
289 Posts |
Thanks for posting ... once again, I am humbled by the members here, willing to specify and support good advice / information. I will be pulling my one ungraded Trade dollar to do some further inspection / verification. |
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Pillar of the Community
 Singapore
631 Posts |
Thanks guys, when the deal is too good to be true it probably is.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4376 Posts |
Here are a few other changes on the reverse that are easy to spot on type 1 and type 2. 1) Eagle neck feathers on type 1 do not touch eagle's shoulder, on the type 2 the neck feathers touch the shoulder. 2) On type 1 the wing tip is above the middle arrow rod on type 2 the wing tip touches the middle arrow rod. 3) The stem above the S in Grains is longer on type 1, and shorter on type 2. The arrow feathers are different on type 1 vs type 2. 4) The two leaves next and above the F in Fine are in different positions in type 1 vs type 2.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1761 Posts |
If fakes are getting this good, I might be in the wrong hobby.
This thread is like a 'how to improve my product' for the fraud artists.
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Valued Member
United States
108 Posts |
Is it possible that a type 1 reverse die( from 1876 was left over and paired with an 1877 obverse die?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Is it possible that a type 1 reverse die( from 1876 was left over and paired with an 1877 obverse die? Mistakes did happen at the mint, but there is no known or documented 77 CC with a type 1 reverse. The OP counterfeit has deceptive details, but there are some other issues that could be used to sort out this counterfeit. ..
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