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Commems Collection Classic: 1935 Old Spanish Trail - Congress

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In April 1935, the US Congress was faced with another commemorative coin "emergency" - this time for the 1935 Old Spanish Trail Half Dollar. (You can read about the 1936 Columbia, South Carolina Half Dollar "emergency" here: 1936 Columbia, SC Sesquicentennial - Congress.

It was another case of an anniversary and/or planned celebration drawing near and a coin that was intended to tie into it being delayed in Congress. The alleged milestone anniversary, in the case of the Old Spanish Trail half dollar, was the "four hundredth anniversary of the expedition of Cabeza de Vaca and the opening of the Old Spanish Trail." (A discussion of the misguided nature of this coin bill can be found here: 1935 Old Spanish Trail - Redux.)

The discussion took place in the House of Representatives; the cast:

- John Joseph Cochran (D-MO), senior member of the House Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures
- Marion Anthony Zioncheck (D-WA)
- Charles Dunsmore Millard (R-NY)
- William Doddridge McFarlane (D-TX)

"Mr. COCHRAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for the immediate consideration of two bills, unanimously reported by the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures, to provide for the coinage of 50-cent pieces for historical celebrations to be held this summer. These are emergency measures, and if they are not passed the mint will not be able to turn out the coins in time. There will be absolutely no expense to the Government. Treasury objections have been taken care of.

"Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for the immediate consideration of the bill (H. R. 6372) to authorize the coinage of 50-cent pieces in connection with the Cabeza de Vaca Expedition and the opening of the Old Spanish Trail.

"The Clerk read the title of the bill.

"Mr. ZIONCHECK. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, are not these bills on the Consent Calendar?

"Mr. COCHRAN. No; they were just reported yesterday, and are emergency bills.

"Mr. ZIONCHECK. Does the gentleman mean to tell the House that the coining of 50-cent pieces is an emergency matter?

"Mr. COCHRAN. It is in this instance, because the celebration is going to be held this summer, and it takes time to make the dies and to strike off the coins.

"Mr. ZIONCHECK. Why were not the bills reported sooner?

"Mr. COCHRAN. Because the Chairman of the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures has been sick. He authorized me, as the ranking member of the committee, to call a meeting to consider these bills; and I called it.

"Mr. ZIONCHECK. Is this for St. Louis again?

"Mr. COCHRAN. No; this is not for St. Louis.

"Mr. MILLARD. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, has the gentleman consulted the minority members of his committee?

"Mr. COCHRAN. Absolutely. They are unanimously in favor of it.

"Mr. McFARLANE. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, has the gentleman taken care of meeting the expense, so it will not cost the Government anything?

"Mr. COCHRAN. Everything is taken care of; it will not cost the Government 5 cents.

"There being no objection, the Clerk read the bill..."


[Text of bill inserted into the record.]

Representative Cochran then inserted the Committee Report into the record and the bill was then engrossed and passed before being sent to the Senate. It was passed in the Senate and approved by US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt on June 6, 1935.

The coins were not struck in time for the Trail's "anniversary" celebration; the coins were not struck until September 1935. Funds derived from the sale of the Old Spanish Trail Half Dollar were to be used to support the "El Paso Museum" vs. defray expenses of a celebration event. Nonetheless, having them available during potential celebrations would have supported their sale. (I've come across an interesting tidbit about the coin and Museum that sheds new light on their connection - I will discuss/post it in the near future.)

Note: The above question regarding a St. Louis bill appears to be in reference to an unsuccessful bill sponsored by Cochran earlier in the Session - "For the relief of the United States Bank of St. Louis, Mo." - it was not specifically a commemorative coin bill.

1935 Old Spanish Trail Half Dollar



For more of my topics on commemorative coins and medals, including other Spanish Trail stories, see: Commems Collection.




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Very nice - I've always liked the look of that half.
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Good read as always, thanks.
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Every time I read something related to the issuing of the Old Spanish Trail half dollar I mentally place myself in the shoes of the commemorative coin collector of 1935 who is being ravaged by the abuses of their collecting dollars.

Amongst the charlatans is Texas coin dealer L.W. Hoffecker who conceived of this issue as his pet project to fleece collectors for his personal profit.

Hoffecker literally made up many 'facts' to support his appeal to congress for authorization to coin this issue.

His claims included that El Paso was the historical end of the Old Spanish Trail (it never came close), that the 400th anniversary was 1935 (it was not) and that proceeds from the coins sale would support an El Paso museum (they did not).

Then - with a teeny mintage of just 10,000 coins secured he contrived a distribution system designed solely to extract the maximum amount of dollars from an aggrieved collector base.

Such was the environment during the peak of the 'commemorative craze' era in 1936.

@commems is likely laughing to himself with knowledge of how I might respond to this thread.

That's OK - just ask me how I really feel about the Old Spanish Trail coin.
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You didn't disappoint!

But stay tuned...


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Tell us how you really feel!

That being said, well said.
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