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1953 Dollar NSF - Die Clash

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 Posted 06/13/2022  02:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've seen something like this clash before but can't find where. Has it been found on other years also ? Would like to know if it could be a proof-like.



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 Posted 06/13/2022  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to Charlton, that is Reverse Variety Rev.-007 but
they refer to it as a Die Break instead of a clash.

To me it looks like it could be a clash caused by the hair ribbons
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06/13/2022 08:55 am
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 Posted 06/13/2022  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
matches up perfectly with ribbon. And yes it's definitely a PL coin, unless it's specimen

. I still have trouble telling the difference and pictures are even harder to judge but I think mirror fields for pre 68 are all PL or specimen.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not a PL or specimen strike.
You can clearly see the bag marks and scuffs.

This is what a 1953 PL dollar looks like:


Nice looking cameo on Terrys coin!
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06/13/2022 2:16 pm
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 Posted 06/13/2022  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right, definitely a die clash JimmyD.
My dollar was wrapped loose in tissue paper with other coins which caused some of the marks. However, after seeing johnnysprawls photo, it looks like the PL rim is thicker and even all around. Mine has a narrow, uneven rim.
Just had a second thought - anyone have a NSF PL to show the rim on that one - who knows, may be different than the SF rim.
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06/13/2022 4:33 pm
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 Posted 06/13/2022  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have both. The SF obverse rim does appear slightly thicker.
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The SF coins are Lower relief and have a slightly broader rim .
This is also the case for the other silver Coins of 1953 as well.
How Charlton ever came to call 1953 coins either SF or NSF
Is a mystery . The relief was reduced mid way through 1953
to allow for much better striking , especially on Dollars, 50 &
25 Cents .
A much better description is High Relief for the so-called NSF
and Low Relief fits better for the so-called SF coins.
Die clashing on Silver Dollars of 1950 to 1954 is rather common .
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Very nice - I have to get used to looking for clashes on Canadian coins by rotating the coin in my mind in stead of flipping it over like we do for US coins.
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I was going to post this coin in a separate thread but then I found this thread with a coin that has similar markings. There is a die clash behind the head on both coins as well as a die crack on both coins at the top of the C in Canada.




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To Canada67 - my experience when it comes to strong die clashes like this one that there has to be marker clashes on that coin some were else. Look at the overlay provided and the first place to look is in the fonts. Were the Queen is will be a %100 cancelation of the die clash. Especially check were the canoe goes into the fonts. Remember you have to hold the coin at a 10 to 20 degree angle to see the clash. That is a very nice coin and clash. Please post back your findings.
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 Posted 01/27/2025  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canada67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chadcoins, I took a loupe to it but didn't find any more die clashes. I was surprised at how mirror-like the surfaces are. If it wasn't for the bag marks I would be suspicious that this was a PL coin.
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 Posted 01/27/2025  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. thanks for your response.
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