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Three Latest Pottery Pickups

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Although I anticipate picking up some more interesting pottery pieces in the next couple of weeks, I figured I'd slip in a new post now. (Pottery slip. Get it? Never mind. Too esoteric)

My three latest acquisitions are below. Although unglazed and imperfect in form, these are nevertheless very special to me. They come with outstanding provenance (each is from an important collection), all are from ancient Iran (my particular area of collecting interest - whether I'm collecting coins, weapons, or pottery), one is published in a major reference book (my first published artifact other than coins), and it seems that that same one may very well be Parthian. (Those who know me will understand why that matters) If the attribution is accurate, it represents my first ceramic Parthian artifact.

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The footed cup/bowl/chalice below, measuring about 5.25" wide, was listed by the seller as NW Iran, 8th - 7th century BC. That would predate the Parthian Empire. However, as I discovered prior to purchase, it turns out that this artifact is published, as figure 170, on page 226 of Trudy S. Kawami's Ancient Iranian Ceramics in the Arthur M. Sackler Collections (1992). (It pays to do your homework) Kawami lists the vessel as Parthian, which would make its dating a bit later: mid-3rd century BC to early 3rd century AD. Kawami, BTW, is also author of Monumental Art of the Parthian Period in Iran (Leiden: 1987). She is a Ph.D in art history and archaeology, specializing in art of ancient Iran (including, notably, Parthian art). I see no reason to doubt her attribution of the piece. This artifact becomes the second ex-Sackler in my collection. It was released from the collection by Sotheby's around 2009.







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Painted tripod bowls like the one below are rare, but do show up occasionally at auction. They are from NW Iran and are usually dated c. 2000 - 1500 BC. As such, they are often associated with ancient Luristan. The painted decorations are usually geometric in nature: latticework grids, stripes, triangles, and such, but sometimes simple, repetitive animal motifs are included too. The sides of these vessels are always concave, and the rims pretty prominent.

My example, measuring about 4.5" tall, is from the Marcel Gibrat Collection. I've written about Gibrat before. He seems to have been an interesting fellow. Born in 1915 in Grenoble, France, he eventually became a self-taught art restorer for the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NY. He also did some restoration work for the Toledo Museum of Art. In addition, he was a painter, and a serious antiquities collector and seller. His personal collection was extensive. Gibrat died in 1993. I own several pieces that used to reside in his collection - including weapons. All were purchased from his nephew.



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This single handled Western Asian vessel below is also from the Gibrat Collection. It measures 5" wide and 5.5" tall. It has a small rim chip but is, otherwise, in good shape considering its age. It dates to c.12th - 10th century BC.

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Nice,I like them.
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Wonderful pieces Bob, it's amazing how these have stayed in on e piece after all this time.
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Beautiful trio Bob!
There must be a lot of research involved when choosing these pieces...You really have a good eye for aesthetically pleasing shapes.....Congrats on the Parthian chalice especially..
Thanks for sharing.
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Lovely pieces Bob, thanks for sharing. Congratulations on these latest acquisitions.

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Thanks, all, for taking a look and for commenting.
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Very cool Bob, very nice having a variety of ancient display pieces around the home. How are you planning on displaying them? I like to use display cases as they save a lot of dust work.
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Thanks, TC. Yep, picking up a display case has been on my to-do list for a long time. Recently I realized I will need to get two of them - the number of objects in the weaponry and pottery collection is growing. First, the pandemic had delayed the purchase of a case (I was originally planning to pick one up locally just as we became housebound and businesses temporarily closed), now it's a big, planned window replacement job we've got coming up this winter. Since the cases will be set up in one of the front rooms of our house, not far from where the work is going to be done, I've decided to delay getting them (display cases) until mid-spring, after the windows are in place. But it really is something I've been looking forward to.
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With your fast growing collection, a nice curio cabinet might be in order.
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Thought I'd throw in a couple of pottery updates. Among recent deliveries (over the past couple of weeks) are the two below. Both are Pre-Columbian, an area I had no intention of venturing into when I began to collect pottery. Fakes abound with Pre-Columbians - and, also, the dates of the legit pieces are not so distant, at least as compared to the much older Roman, Greek, and Western Asian material I've collected. I didn't think I'd get too excited over pottery that was, say, a thousand years old, as opposed to stuff two or three times as ancient. However, some time back, I picked up an unattributed pot (for $34! - part of a charity auction), figuring it might be Western Asian. Thought I'd enjoy the attribution research. Turns out it is likely an olla from Pre-Columbian Central America:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/g...1&fullsize=1

Well, once I had one Pre-Columbian, it seemed only appropriate to get another - or three. As with all of my purchases, I am not pulling the trigger without feeling very confident about authenticity.

Received two Pre-Columbian bowls last week (the nicer one is pictured below) and the Mayan potsherd ($33 for this one!) came this afternoon. For better or worse, the old sticker on the sherd is not going anywhere; it's really imbedded and likely can't be removed without risk to the surface of the piece. The fragment belonged to the grandfather of the seller - he had had it "forever" according to his granddaughter. It's a lovely piece, IMO.


Bowl
Pre-Columbian South America
(Listed as Pichincha highlands, Ecuador)
c. 800 - 1500 AD
12 cm (w) x 8.9 cm (h)
(4.75" x 3.5")
Description:
The black-over-red geometric and linear patterning, as well as overall pedestal form, match some Narino culture bowls of the period.



Mayan Potsherd
Honduras, possibly Ulua region
Late Classic, c. 550 - 900 AD
120mm (w) x 57mm (h)
(4.75" x 2.25")
Description:
Ex-Oregon private collection. Polychrome fragment with complex patterning. Old sticker suggests a date of c. 250 AD (Early Classic). However, based on cursory research, I believe the sherd more likely dates to the Late Classic period. Thoughts welcome.
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You have been picking up some really nice pieces recently, Bob. The muted browns and reds on these are very attractive.
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Thanks, Jim
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Very cool Bob.
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Waaah!...Really nice Bob!....Finding these posts very interesting so thanks for sharing...

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The muted browns and reds on these are very attractive
...Completely agree with Jim, lovely colouring and as you know I do find the simplistic form really appealing.

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The black-over-red geometric and linear patterning, as well as overall pedestal form, match some Narino culture bowls of the period.
...Had a quick look at some images and it certainly seems to be of the same type....Really like the potsherd too and the old label just gives it that little bit more!
Congrats on some nice additions Bob keep em coming.
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Thanks, guys. Glad you like.
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Hi Bob, How do you deal with having two different areas of subject matter as your collecting interests, namely coin collecting and artifact collecting- do you devote part of your time to coin collecting and part of your time to artifact collecting, or has artifact collecting started to take precedence over your coin collecting?
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