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Beware Of Fake Canadian Toonies

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FYI: though I'd share.
A Quebec man is facing charges related to a major counterfeit money smuggling investigation, according to the Canadian Border Services Agency. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/thousand...ne-1.5895256

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"The RCMP said they arrested 68-year-old Richmond Hill man Daixiong He, who has been charged with uttering counterfeit money and possession of counterfeit money."

Interesting term - "uttering". I had never heard of it being used in this context.

I really wonder how much it cost him to actually produce the coins.
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@jess, I started to edit your title, but now I'm not sure that I should. Can you please clarify if you mean to say Beware of Fake "Clad" Toonies or Beware of Fake "CAD" Toonies? Thx!
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Thanks!

I edited the title!!!
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The forum software automatically adjusts the topic titles to use Capitalized Case (first letter of each work is capitalized) and remove ALL CAPS for all but some select acronyms and other initialisms. If you are trying to say CAD, that is not a known initialism to the software. What is it an abbreviation for?
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CAD = Canadian Dollar
Commonly used here north of the border.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Ok yes that is what gave me pause. If this was in one of the Canadian subforums, then it would be no problem, but since we've got it here in numismatic crime, I'm thinking that it might be best to spell it out. If you object strenuously @jess, then I can change it back.
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Looks good to me! Thanks.
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Henning Nickels in the U.S. and Daixiong Toonies in Canada.
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And neither one acceptable IMHO .
The only way to deal with the Two Dollar
Counterfeit problem, with draw the current
Design and replace with something more secure
in design qv the UK replacement of the 1£ coin.
Better yet , just reissue $2 Banknotes in Polymer.
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Interesting term - "uttering". I had never heard of it being used in this context.

It is the standard English-language legal term used for spending or attempting to spend counterfeit money, or to otherwise allow counterfeit money to enter circulation (such as by depositing it in a bank, or giving it away to friends). The French version of the law uses the phrase "mettre en circulation". The term "utter" dates back to English legal usage, codified back in Shakespearian times when the common definition of "utter" meant "to say that something is true". In the case of Canada, you'll find it all laid out in Section 452 of the Criminal Code: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng...tml#h-123282

Intent is important: to be convicted of uttering, they need to prove that you (the utterer) knew it was fake. Someone who innocently receives a fake coin in change without looking at it closely and passes it on to the next person, is not uttering. But if you innocently receive a fake coin in change, examine it closely, discover it is fake, then decide to spend it anyway, that's still uttering.

The Canadian law also includes within "uttering" any attempt to export fake coins out of Canada. Importing fake coins into Canada is covered under the "possession" charge.
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