Fake/Counterfeit Detection: 1981 5 Fen China - Altered

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CCFPress Press Manager United States 1420 Posts	Posted 08/10/2020 07:28 am NGC - This coin began its life with a different year. Then someone tried to make it look like a key date. Read More: Counterfeit Detection Series The 1981 5 Fen is a well-known rarity in modern Chinese numismatics. Examples of this date are worth hundreds of times the value of more-common dates. NGC graders recently saw this example, which at first glance seems to be a very high-grade 1981 5 Fen worth hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Read the Entire Article Report this Post to the Staff

tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 6895 Posts	Posted 08/10/2020 07:39 am Fascinating article on counterfeiting a modern coin. Not something I'm used to seeing. It also caught my attention wince I just plucked an UNC 1988 5 fen from my LCS 20 cent bin a week ago. Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 8923 Posts	Posted 08/10/2020 1:09 pm very interesting Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16181 Posts	Posted 08/10/2020 8:00 pm You have to admit, it's very nicely done. The loss of lustre around the final "1" is the only clue (to my eyes) that it's an altered date. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
ryurazu Pillar of the Community Australia 1333 Posts	Posted 08/11/2020 12:53 am it would be very hard to detect this on a 1981 5 fen without microscope. Swap list: http://goccf.com/t/334449 Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 6895 Posts	Posted 08/11/2020 07:35 am Quote: You have to admit, it's very nicely done. The loss of lustre around the final "1" is the only clue (to my eyes) that it's an altered date. Agree. The reverse photo almost looks like the luster has been altered in some other areas, maybe to make it seem "normal." The obverse on the other hand seems to have uniform luster. Quote: it would be very hard to detect this on a 1981 5 fen without microscope. If you read the full article, the distance between the first 1 in the date, and the stem of the wreath is a tell that can be seen with the unaided eye. Edited by tdziemia 08/11/2020 07:39 am Report this Post to the Staff
David Graham Pillar of the Community Australia 1575 Posts	Posted 08/14/2020 01:57 am OK, can understand if nobody is keen to answer this, but am really curious as to how a forger "moves the metal around". Report this Post to the Staff
mibarra New Member Mexico 8 Posts	Posted 08/14/2020 02:18 am I think it moves the metal at high temperature maybe the alloy used to make the number can be conformed at lower temperatures Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3675 Posts	Posted 08/14/2020 06:31 am I had a couple of altered Soviet coins - pretty scarce years. Both sellers attempted to deny knowledge and wanted to force me to accept them. In both cases, low grade coins are used and are semi cleaned to disguise the alterations. It looks like very fine engraving tools are used. Hard to tell from front up pic but at an angle the relief is slightly lower on the altered number. Needless to say, I returned them. Not happy that I had to fork out for return shipping. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
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