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Ottoman Akce Of Murad II

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 Posted 07/05/2019  5:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TTerrier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a number of coins of the Islamic dynasties (probably > 100) and have always relied on the attributions of the sellers. I have a number of reference books, including the excellent one by Richard Plant, which I have used to check these attributions and get some idea of what the legends on the coin say. Since I don't speak or read/write Arabic I found myself looking at the shapes of the inscriptions and trying to match them up instead of actually trying to read them. I think that works for a while on nicely preserved coins like Umayyad dirhams but once you get into copper and bronze or more poorly made silver it gets a lot harder.

I decided to try and actually learn how to read these inscriptions and to trace the words on each coin as practice. I can tell you that right from the beginning it is not easy (at least for me). There is a lot of variation in letter forms and letter/word placement on the coins. Since Arabic is a consonantal language short vowels must be indicated by diacritical marks, which are typically left out of inscriptions.

I decided to start with the coin below as the inscriptions are not too long, although there is a tughra in it (like a monogram) which is causing me some uncertainty.

Have a look - any corrections or comments are most welcome!





I believe the translation is:
Obverse:

825 AH

Murad son of Mehmed Celebi


I'm not a 100% sure on the obverse - something I discovered on this coin is that without diacritical marks Mehmed looks the same as Muhammad. I saw some other coins during my search that referred to Murad's father as Muhammad Khan?

Reverse:

May God preserve his rule

Struck [in] Serez

I notice the images are a bit large in this post - I will reduce the size as I start posting other coins.


See Zeno #9578 for comparison and Album 1302.2
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 Posted 07/05/2019  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reading a tughra is about as difficult as it gets. The inscription on Murad II's other coins is Murad bin Mehmed khan. Arabic Muhammad and Ottoman Turkish Mehmed are the same, both written as Arabic Muhammad. "Mehmet", I believe, is the way Ottoman Mehmed was pronounced and is the way it is spelled in modern Turkish. For our purposes, it is enough to be aware that Muhammad, Mehmed and Mehmet are variant readings of the same name. The tughra on the coin is greatly simplified with only "Murad" (red), "Mehmed" (green) and the date legible. According to http://www.tugra.org the two large loops at left are called "eggs" and are not words but a common design element of all tughras. The reverse is very straightforward and you have it correctly.
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A super thread for those of us who continue to struggle with reading these Akces.
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Very informative thread.
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Thanks @Kushanshah - I've bookmarked the tughra website for further study. I'll make sure the next one I post avoids that sort of complication!
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