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I'm still looking to purchase my first ancient coin. I am absorbing all the wonderful, expert advice everyone on the forum has been generously providing. One piece of advice was to stick with a coin that is in an official NGC, sealed case.
Okay, that makes sense. But... I'd like to display whatever beautiful coin I get in a nice display case, not a rather (sorry NGC) drab looking slab (is that the correct term?) of plastic.
So I'm thinking about breaking whatever coin I get out of the NGC case. But I'll lose any provenance and legitimacy the NGC case provides. So would I be insane to take a coin out of the NGC case, or does my reasoning make a semblance of sense?
Would you or have you taken a coin out of the slab? If so, any regrets?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've cracked an ancient out of an NGC holder to put in a set before.
I recommend checking the NGC site and enter your certification number. NGC will often have photos of the coin in the slab, if yours does and you crack it and keep the NGC label with the coin, you won't totally lose out on the authenticity verification. You would still lose the grading, protection, and liquidity of the coin though.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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floyd5175, I liberated a PCGS MS66 Buffalo nickel to put in my 7070 and never thought twice about it.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Australia
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Frankly, if you're going to buy an ancient coin and don't need or want it slabbed, don't buy a slabbed one. The risk of damaging the coin during crackout isn't worth it. Leave the slabbed ancients for the investors and speculators.
Get a "raw" coin from a trusted ancients specialist. Most ancients collectors put more faith in a good dealer's word than in the TPGs, anyhow.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Something else to think about is what happens to this coin when you are no longer here . It would be much less of a headache for who Ever is next if it's still in a slab. So for me with what is noted above it would depend on the value of the coin.
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Some collectors like slabbed ancient coins, some do not. I prefer mine not slabbed. Modern collecitble coins can be damaged if touched/handled with your fingers. Ancient coins can be held, no problem. I enjoy holding my ancient coins, imagining who held them, used them over a thousand years ago. Of course when I hold one I do it above a table so I don't drop it on the floor. You could put an ancient coin in a display case lika a museum. But then peeple could only see one side of it unless you suspend it over the top of a mirror. Friends and family would likely enjoy actually holding one rather than just looking at it. You could buy a few inexpensive ancient coins to hold and buy an expensive one slabbed or in a case to look at. Vcoins is a good place to buy in my opinion. There's a few CCF members that sell ancient coins on ebay and/or Vcoins, you can trust them, Victor's Imperial Coins for example. You can buy decent late Roman bronze coins for around $25. I would not spend the money to buy a slabbed ancient coin that provides authenticity and protection then break it out, especially if it's an expensive one.
Edited by livingwater 02/21/2025 07:29 am
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New Member
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Excellent responses! As others have said, I kinda like the idea of holding a 2000+ year old coin in my hand and imagine if it was also held by a soldier.
Good point about buying a "raw" coin from a trustworthy dealer rather than focusing on slabbed coins just for authenticity peace of mind.
Unrelated question: When will I have enough posts to be able to quote a post and edit a post?
Edited by floyd5175 02/21/2025 12:31 pm
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Quote: Unrelated question: When will I have enough posts to be able to quote a post and edit a post? You should be able to do that now. - Copy the text you wish to quote and paste it in the reply box. Click on "Go to Full Reply". - Highlight the text and then click on the icon with a page and red arrow this inserts the quote / end quote tags. To edit a post, click on the icon with a pencil above your post. Edit it and click on "Post Changes".
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Quote: Copy the text you wish to quote and paste it in the reply box. Click on "Go to Full Reply" *** Edited by Staff to add Quote tags. [quote][/quote] Please use them in the future. ***Hmmm... did something wrong.
Edited by floyd5175 02/21/2025 12:33 pm
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United States
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I'm all for cracking out coins that aren't ultra-rare museum-quality pieces that require the utmost care and protection from the environment.
Something like a Messana hare tetradrachm with Pan should be slabbed, or a high copper-content coin that will react with the environment. I'd definitely break out a common Athenian own, though -- it's a piece of history to hold, it's not reactive, and it already survived the last 2500 years just fine.
Make sure you look up how to properly crack slabs. You can find videos on YouTube.
I highly suggest maintaining any documentation, like the NGC label and purchase documentation, with the coin.
People can be pretty opinionated with respect to slabbing. I started out in EAC (early American coppers) and moved into medievals, so I'm in the what-the-heck-are-you-doing-encasing-that-in-plastic school. Collectors of modern high-grade or proof coins tend to feel the opposite, and I think they're justified. Just remember the cliche: buy the coin, not the slab. With ancients & medievals, qualitative or numerical grades rarely have meaning.
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Quote: I'm all for cracking out coins... I have done it three times to fill three album holes.  Quote: [if you] don't need or want it slabbed, don't buy a slabbed one. For many, the slab offers a layer of confidence. That being said, I believe discussing the purchase here will provide many more layers of confidence. 
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've cracked many coins out of their slabs over the years, mainly to insert them into albums. This old thread shows me freeing an ~$2000 coin from it's PCGS slab: http://goccf.com/t/96248
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.artToo many hobbies .... too much work .... not enough time.
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Quote:So this... Quote: Quoted Text Looks like this... Did it work?
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Quote: Did it work? Yes! 
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Quote: I'm all for cracking out coins that aren't ultra-rare museum-quality pieces that require the utmost care and protection from the environment.
Something like a Messana hare tetradrachm with Pan should be slabbed, or a high copper-content coin that will react with the environment. I'd definitely break out a common Athenian own, though -- it's a piece of history to hold, it's not reactive, and it already survived the last 2500 years just fine.
You have it completely wrong. Those slabs do not protect coins. Look at the warranties that the companies selling the slabs include. No long warranty for copper or other reactive metals. If you have a coin you must protect, take it out of the plastic box and protect it properly. The best and time tested method have been varnishes where corrosion is a problem. Only make sure you pick one that can be removed easily.
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