Septimius Severus "imp CA ..... Cos II"

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maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2032 Posts	Posted 05/14/2017 12:10 pm Amongst the eastern issues of Septimius Severus are an odd little sub-series that don't follow the full late Emesa obverse legend of "IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II". They come with a variety of legend variations and are quite enigmatic in that their style doesn't really match this series but does seem closer to the "IMP II" series. Anyway that is a story for another day. I have a bit of an obsession with this sub series and have a few examples. My latest example is from my favourite obverse die from this series, an example of which which was my first eastern denarius of Septimius Severus and ignited the fire with my collecting of these. Obv:- IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II, Laureate head right Rev:- FORT REDVC, Fortuna standing left, holding long scepter & cornucopia References:- RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -. Black tone. my other examples Rev:- FORT REDVC, Fortuna standing left, holding rudder & cornucopia References:- RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -. Here is my first one. The same reverse type as my new coin but different reverse die. Sold to me as a fake. Rev:- FORT REDVC, Fortuna standing left, holding long scepter & cornucopia References:- RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -. Rev- LIBER AVG, Liberalitas standing left, holding abacus in right hand, cornucopiae in left Reference:- BMCRE -. RIC - RSC -. Rev:- MART-I V-ICTORI, Mars advancing right carrying spear and trophy. Minted in Emesa. A.D. 194-195 Reference:- BMCRE -. RIC - RSC -. I know of two other reverses - MINER VI-CTRIC and MONET AVG, my search for these continues. Regards, Martin Edited by maridvnvm 05/14/2017 12:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 05/14/2017 12:25 pm Impressive group Martin. Thanks for passing on your knowledge about this type. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 32709 Posts	Posted 05/14/2017 1:24 pm Great grouping. I wonder about the darker toning on the first coin. Do you attribute this to a slightly different alloy of silver or just a longer period of toning? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2032 Posts	Posted 05/14/2017 1:29 pm A long period of toning. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2750 Posts	Posted 05/16/2017 04:48 am Super coins Martin and an excellent write-up I really like these Eastern style mints! Good luck in your hunt for the 2 other reverses. And when found please post them. Saludos Paul Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2032 Posts	Posted 05/16/2017 05:54 am I am actively performing a die study on all the obverse dies that fall into this "IMP CA" series. I am not aware of anyone really paying them much attention but I think that there is something sufficiently odd about them that a little bit of study is worthwhile. I treat them as separate to the "Emesa" issue with obverse legend "IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II". I hope to explain why when I have finished my analysis. I will not bore you all with my findings thus far or even all my example but will share the different obverse dies that I am aware of in case they are of interest. I differentiate them by obverse legends and then when there are multiple dies with the same legend I then have to study the dies in more detail to differentiate between them. The obverse die above is quite distinctive and is the only one I am aware of with the full legend "IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II" with the elements of note being "IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II". I will now move on to "IMP CA L SE SEV - PER AVG COS II" and "IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AVG COS II" and and "IMP CA L SEP SEV - PER AV COS II" This coin being a reverse die match to the Mars type in my first post. This reverse die link allows me to link these two obverse dies to the same mint as one another. and "IMP CA L SEP SE-V PER AVG COS II" and the following from a different obverse die (look at the relative positions of the wreath bow) and "IMP CA L SE SEV - PEVR(sic) AVG COS I - I" and finally "IMP CA L SEP S-EV PER AVG COS - II" This is a list of the obverse dies from this series that I am aware of. With a few of these I have a few different reverses but don't want to bore you all. Regards, Martin Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2032 Posts	Posted 01/11/2025 11:45 am We are now a few years on and I have added another two reverse dies to the one in my OP. One is the MONET AVG type that I mentioned above, the other is a BONA SPES type that I had been unaware of. The Minerva type still evades me. Obv:- IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II, Laureate head right Rev:- M-ONE-T AVG, Moneta standing left, holding scales in right hand, cornucopiae in left Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194 References:- RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -. Obv:- IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II, Laureate head right Rev:- BONA SPES, Spes standing holding flower and lifting skirt Minted in Emesa. A.D. 194-195 Reference(s) - BMCRE -. RSC -. RIC -. 3.48g, 18.40mm, 0o Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4905 Posts	Posted 01/11/2025 3:29 pm Cool eastern Serverans Martin! I saw this thread started in 2017 and I think you were into this coin series before that. How long have been collecting these now (eastern coins of SS,not just this die series)? Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2032 Posts	Posted 01/11/2025 3:32 pm I started in 2002.... Report this Post to the Staff
pastpost Valued Member France 356 Posts	Posted 01/13/2025 04:25 am @maridvnvm. Thanks for the interesting information and photos of the coins. Among my small collection of Sept. Severus Emesa mint, I found one coin that may be help you in your studies of "Imp CA ..... Cos II" sub-series. Obv:- IMP CA L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right Rev:- FORTVN REDVC, Fortuna sitting left, holding long scepter & cornucopia There may be another error in the obverse legend: IMP CA L SEP SEV PERT AVC COS II. Edited by pastpost 01/13/2025 07:01 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 157722 Posts	Posted 01/13/2025 11:25 am Excellent! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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