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 Posted 12/28/2023  06:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Vonlouie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi all I've been trying to identify this coin but I'm not getting any useful answers from anywhere. The coin measures 42-44 mm across, it is 2 mm thick and weighs just over 20 grams. Any help on figuring this out would be much appreciated.

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 Posted 12/28/2023  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 12/28/2023  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are several coins with some of those letters in Numista.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/in...=&c=&wi=&sw=

Does the coin stick to a magnet? Could you provide a good image of the edge of the coin?
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 Posted 12/28/2023  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vonlouie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi thanks for the reply. For the first reply, that link is what I was thinking but the coin is to wide and to light.

For the second reply the coin is not magnetic and here is the picture of the side


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 Posted 12/28/2023  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fplagge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you notice that the coin's shape was defined as "cob"? this may explain why the thickness and weight are not what is listed in Numista.

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Cob
The name given to the series of crudely-struck silver and gold coins, particularly from the Spanish-American mints from the 1500's to the 1700's. The name comes from the Spanish phrase "cabo de barre", cut off the bar, describing the method of preparing the blanks for these coins by slicing pieces off of a roughly cylindrical ingot of precious metal. The name can also be applied to any series of coins where the blanks were prepared in similar fashion, such as Russia; the word "ruble" also means "cut".


So, you seem to have a rather valuable coin, my friend, although I am not sure what the modification does to the value.

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 Posted 12/28/2023  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vonlouie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help, But still a little puzzling with the size and weight of the coin, was there no standard or is it how some coins were just made ?

I've included some pictures of the modify part, I can't tell how this was joined as I can't see any sort of solder.

Is it worth getting the coin appraised?

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 Posted 12/28/2023  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there was a weight standard, and yours does not meet it, which is a cause for concern that it s not an authentic coin.

An authentic one looks like this (weight 27.1 grams.):

© Lübke & Wiedemann, Leonberg
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 Posted 12/28/2023  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@von, first welcome to CCF. Second, as this may be a replica of a Spanish colonies coin, I'm going to move this thread over to the world coin subforum. We have several experts in this specific field who pop in occasionally. I'm hoping that they can provide their expertise and augment the replies that you have so far.
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 Posted 12/28/2023  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Commonly seen repro out of the UK of a 1676 Potosi "Royal" (or galano) strike 8 Reales. The model coin was a recovery from the 1707 Association shipwreck.
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 Posted 12/28/2023  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vonlouie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ realeswatcher thanks for that infomations about the shipwreck now I understand how this coin was in possession of my family. My grandparents went to the Isles of Scilly a fair few time and I went as a child a couple times so I think it was probably bought there back in the 70's or 80's as a souvenir
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 Posted 12/29/2023  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with those that say this is a copy, not genuine.
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