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New Member
Australia
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Hi all, I am hoping someone can assist with identifying this coin and its value.    Weight is 26 g (my weighing machine does not have decimal points). Any thoughts on authenticity? Thanks. |
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 United States
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@cray, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please confirm whether or not a strong magnet is attracted to this piece? Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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New Member
 Australia
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Hi, thanks for your response.
Umm, when you say "strong magnet", how strong is strong? I tested it on an ordinary fridge magnet and the coin is not magnetic at all.
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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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It looks wonky, don't think it's real.
Purports to be a Japan 1 Yen 1884 (Meiji Year 17)
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New Member
Australia
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Thanks for identifying the coin!
Anything else apart from it being "wonky"?
I googled the real coins and they're not all perfectly round.
I checked the diameter of the real coin (38.6 mm) and the diameter for this one is similar (38.xx mm). Weight is also similar (26.xx g).
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07/26/2023 08:46 am
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The dots around the dragon are not perfect, scales look like from a fish and it looks like the dragon had a bad hair day...
Unlikely to be genuine.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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Singapore
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All I can say is the Japanese are sticklers for perfection in minting their coins and everything else.
This coin doesn't look right, many of the details are off; scales, face, denticles etc...
Send it to NGC for grading if you think otherwise.
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New Member
Australia
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Understood, thanks Gxseries and Numister. I think grading is very expensive and not economical if it's not genuine. What about this one?    |
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Pillar of the Community
Singapore
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This one is even worse, did you buy it from some night market...
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Australia
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These coins are both nickel-brass replicas. The yellowish colour in the photographs is very typical of this alloy, which can look silvery in-hand but the yellow shines through in photographs. The second one is a very crude replica of an early Japanese silver yen, Meiji Year 3. Compare the details on yours with the details on this example on Numista. Particularly the crysanthemum flower at the top; the flower on your coin is just a blobby mess in comparison. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
Japan
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Both coins are DEFINITELY fakes. I wouldn't even bother with a magnet.
I have around 100 Japanese silver one Yen coins and I spotted the fake details in about 2 seconds.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wish I had these in my collection.
I do have fakes, but they look so good.
They'd fool people with photos.
I'd like to get some that don't look good at all.
Sometimes I search popular online selling websites hoping to stumble on coins described as "unknown" because even though the seller may not know what it is, I may find a piece that I know what it is or is not, and if so I can often get a good one to photo and add to the collection.
But sometimes my offers don't play out.
I find obvious bad coins, but the sellers can't bring themselves to admit the coins are bad. I offer a reasonable price because I buy fakes, but they can be stuck on stupid, claim the coin is good or the conversation just withers on the vine.
I had some cases where I sent the seller a message saying we both know the coin is not authentic- but I'll buy it anyway. Just not for the price you seem to be wanting to trick others into paying.
Then......crickets.
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08/03/2023 6:47 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just as a side note several years ago I was finding good medieval Hungarian coins on ebay. After these several years I just looked at what was on there out of curiosity and to keep the account from being deleted and there was nothing but overpriced garbage. |
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