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1969 $20 Cool Serial Number And Miscut Bill

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I'm pretty sure it's not miscut enough to be considered an error or even actually miscut just off centered or something but I thought paired with the serial number it was cool enough to share and see what you guys think

Sorry for the very poor quality pictures (the bill itself is not in pristine condition)
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We need a picture of the front of the bill to see the serial number.
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Whoops my bad it's fixed now
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Sorry, not a fancy serial number and not miscut - well within tolerance.



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Interesting, but no added value in my opinion.

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Spend it.
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Welcome to CCF.

Nothing to see here folks, move along
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I have to agree with the others. The cut is well within tolerances (it needs to cut off part of the printing and/or show part of the next bill to be considered a cutting error). The serial number is sort of a little interesting but isn't considered "fancy" or something a collector would want.
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it is almost like the front side wasn't centered properly to the back side when it was printed.
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This appears to be a misalignment error. Typically, misaligned notes will appear well-centered on one side and off-center on the other side which is how you tell its a misalignment instead of a potential cutting error. Both sides of the note will be affected by a cutting error. See this link for info and examples. https://www.pmgnotes.com/news/artic...tember-2021/

Also apparently this note being 1969 from Kansas City (J) is worth $35 even without an error if in EF40 condition (circulated). So either way it seems to be a keeper. This information from Paper Money of the United States (22nd edition 2021 latest).
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it is almost like the front side wasn't centered properly to the back side when it was printed.

Unlike coins, the two sides of a banknote are printed separately. Multiple print runs are actually used for each sheet of notes. First the background colours are applied (on old-style notes like the OP's, this process doesn't happen as there are no background colours). Then the green-ink back side is done, then allowed to dry for three days, then the black-ink front side, some more time in the dryer, then finally a separate print run for the seals and serial numbers, and a final drying before cutting into individual notes. So it doesn't even all happen on the same day.

This does create room for all kinds of mis-print errors to occur, with the opportunity for banknote sheets to get fed into the printers wrongly/differently each time.

Compare that to coins, where it's a fraction of a second in the press, one hit* and it's done, complete.

* - yes, I know, proof coins are hit twice, and slower. We're talking modern mass-production circulation items here.
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Unlike coins, the two sides of a banknote are printed separately...


HI SAP, yes exactly. The link I shared above mentions this also with some info, why all those mistakes like the seals and serial numbers found printed in odd places like the opposite side can exist. First Print: the back of the note. Second Print: the front of the note that includes the portrait and border. Overprint: certain elements of the front of the note, which can include serial numbers and seals.
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