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Identification Help Needed: Greek Bronze, Young Head Right, Figure Standing Left, Obverse Off Center

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I'm not going to post all of these that I need help with, only a couple per week probably, since I don't want to spam the forum.

This one is 6.3 grams, 18.6 mm diameter x 3.0 mm thick, and features a young-looking head right surrounded by a beaded border; the reverse has what appears to be a figure standing left (maybe with a bow?) and lines of text to the left I can't read.

Obverse is struck noticeably off-center. I am hoping someone can recognize this based on its style.

Thanks in advance.



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Seleucid? The bust appears similar to that of Alexander II, with Dionysos standing holding thyrsos.

Diameter slightly larger, but similar to: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13360457
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I can recognize the "figure left holding something" type in general but it's just a bit rough when I can't read the Greek due to condition. I was thinking perhaps an archer and bow at first. I've got two or three more of these to research.

The bust looks younger on my coin but the reverse is very similar. I am not sure why the obverse would be off-center but not the reverse. The weight difference is a bit interesting as the ones I can see that match Alexander II / Dionysos are all 6-7 grams vs. 3.1 for my example (which is also 2-3 mm smaller, perhaps accounting for the difference in weight?)

I look for the Seleucid-style Basileos, etc. in the legends but I'm getting older and my vision is not that good even with glasses, and I have trouble reading these if there are surface issues.

Most of my coins are Roman and I can identify a lot of Roman Imperial AR and AE coins fairly quickly now, but even with a basic knowledge of Ancient Greek transliteration and numismatic terms, learning to identify Greek bronzes has been more challenging, especially when the legends have gone.
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Many Seleucid coin reverses appear to be similar, but have slight differences in the legends allowing a precise attribution. However where the legends can't be read it makes proper identification almost impossible. Trying to fit into a category by image alone can be frustrated by differences in dies, so luck plays a major part at times.

I've been down many a rabbit hole with this type of coin.
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