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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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A couple of French counterfeits from my collection. First one is a pretty unusual contemporary countefeit - gold plated platinum. Most would have been destroyed. Spanish gold plated platinum are somewhat easier to find but the French ones are less common. This example is more unusual as it seems to be double struck, if not overstruck over a different coin. You can see some letters where it's supposed to be blank background. Still under investigation to find out what it is. The giveaway of counterfeit are the finer details and the hints of silvery underlayer at worn areas. Weights slightly less than what a genuine example is meant to be.  Second one means a bit to me as this is the first counterfeit coin that I found in circulation. This is pretty obvious as the details are quite wrong. This is also magnetic. What is alarming is that the weight is right!  Please feel free to post any French counterfeits! |
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 United States
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Very interesting!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Wow - interesting examples, gxseries - thank you for sharing!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
 Sweden
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Interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fascinating faux d'époque!
Edited by t360
09/04/2024 1:51 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's one I posted a long time ago. The photo isn't great but good enough to see how soft the details are after the plating wore off.   "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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United States
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Here's one I posted a long time ago. The photo isn't great but good enough to see how soft the details are after the plating wore off. Very interesting!
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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In the 1980s I spent most summers working as a tour manager in France. This 10-franc piece was among my tips at the end of one tour in 1986. It appears to be made of brass and is slightly overweight. The edge lettering is very faint. The reverse rim is rough and very prominent whereas the obverse rim is virtually nonexistent. The details are less sharp than on a genuine coin. The color should be a dead giveaway that this is a fake, but it looks as though it may originally have had a reddish-brown wash, traces of which can be seen around the edges of the design and in the lettering:  Genuine coin:  Like many high-value base metal coins, this type of 10-franc coin was a tempting target for forgers, and this led to its replacement in 1988 after a false start in 1986. I wrote about the 1986-8 French 10F debacle in this thread: http://goccf.com/t/451246&whichpage=2#3901372Incidentally, gxseries, I agree that the bimetallic 10F you've posted IS fake, but genuine 10F coins of this type should attract a magnet - the centre is pure nickel, which is magnetic. Edited by NumisRob
09/06/2024 04:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very interesting fakes thq and NumisRob!
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Moderator
United States
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Nice comparison! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Outstanding! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks jbuck! I have few more fakes of French silver coins in various metals.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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t360, after seeing your coin and comparing it with mine, I wonder whether the coins were chemically treated to recover the plating. There is no trace of plating left at all.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@thq I agree, I don't see any trace on yours. On mine there appears to be a narrow band of white residue surrounding the portrait, and some faintly white areas on the reverse in the fields above and below the 'F'.
Both of them could have been stripped as an anti-counterfeiting measure, possibly by the French authorities, so they could not be returned to circulation.
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I have few more fakes of French silver coins in various metals.  
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Posted 09/04/2024 12:41 pm
