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New Member
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I have just bought 7 kg of coins at a boot fair, and came across this penny from 1931 , but it looks cupro nickel with goldish paint in places, I know it is paint because I scraped a bit of it off. Now I know there have been a few cupro nickel pennies in the Victorian era, 1868.'75 and'77, but I have never heard any mention of them in the last century, so this is a bit of a mystery, could it be a fake? I would appreciate any thoughts on the matter.  
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Bedrock of the Community
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I imagine it's been plated. Maybe the victim of a school science experiment.
Edited by NumisRob 06/09/2024 3:45 pm
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 to the CCF!
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My assumption would be that the "silver" is an artificial colour, and that someone attempted to silver-paint a penny to make it look like a halfcrown.
Painting a copper coin to make it look silver or gold is illegal under British law.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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No, Sap , there has been gold painted over the silver of the coin the silver does not come off the gold does, I am wondering if there were some fakes , but that's a lot of trouble to go to for a fake, although in the '30s the penny would have been a lot as the annual wage was about £125 , so maybe they did fake some of them.
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I don't think it's fake. Could you try to get some decent photos of it? Preferably in natural daylight.
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Safi, I'm in the "plated" camp, with gold paint over the plating. By the way, have you weighed and measured your coin?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
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Even in the 1930s it was hardly worth faking a penny - if you were going to all that trouble making dies or casts, better to fake florins or halfcrowns. These big pennies were in use until 1971 and weren't worth much then: as a kid I remember finding horribly abused specimens in change, and schoolmates would kick them around the schoolyard, lay them on train tracks and drill holes in them. Coins that have a combination of a large size and low face value are prone to being abused!
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Okay Hondo Boguss and Hogarth, and yes Sap I know it is illegal, but I didn't do it, I found it that way.The weight is 9.5 and diameter is 30mm and thickness is 2mm, it won't let me upload from my phone it says the file is too big, and I don't know how to crop it. 
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Okay, here are some better pictures for Hogarth and Hondo Boguss, the weight is 9.5g diameter is 30mm, and the thickness is 2mm.  
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Pillar of the Community
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Plated, or possibly painted.
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 To CCF! Looks plated to me.
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New Member
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thank you for your input guys, it has definitely been plated, so its off to The Royal Mint Museum for authentication . 
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The plating would have been done by a private individual messing about with a random coin taken from their pocket, so nothing to do with the mint.
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