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I wonder why the half thalers/daalders/ducatons from the Germany States, the Dutch Republic and the Spanish Netherlands are quite a bit harder to find in collections than the whole thalers/daalders/ducatons. Were they minted at lower numbers, or taken out of circulation more efficiently? Via this thread we can perhaps make the start of a virtual collection. Here is an example:

Brabant - half ducaton 1619 from Archdukes Albert & Isabella (1598-1621), minted in Antwerp; Delm. 252 Very rare (R2)


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Beautiful coin
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Don't collect these, but that's a great-looking example for sure!
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Very nice coin ..
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thanks scopru, Coinfrog and Dorado

while waiting for some other CCF half thalers, here is another example from the same region, from the same century

Charles II (1665-1700) became king of Spain and ruler of the Spanish Netherlands as a small kid. Below is a half ducaton of Flanders (minted in Brugge) with portrait type 1 (5 yr old). Charles died age 35 without an heir; this fact triggered the Spanish Succession War (1701-1724).

half ducaton of Flanders, Brugge 1670, Delm. 330 extremely rare (R3).
A pity of the weak portrait, perhaps the correct quality is F/VF, but it is quite hard to find the same coin with a better quality

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for comparison with the half-ducaton:

Below is the whole ducaton, Charles 2, 1670, FLANDERS (Bruges), Delm 327 (R1), silver ±32 g

same ruler, same year, same city, same toning: nice twins - originating from the same collection

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Interesting coins. Thanks for sharing those!
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Germany-Wallmoden Gimborn silver 1802 half thaler.This is the only half thaler I have. Mintage is unknown, but is very scarce.


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That is a very attractive 1/2 Konventionstaler, worldnumis!
My catalog (A.K.S) says only 8000 we're minted (at Hannover).
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Nice coins, all!
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Thanks for the comment and info Germanicvs
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@worldnumis: thanks for sharing an interesting coin; what is the meaning of XX?
my guess would be 20 stuber, which would make sense for a gulden, but this is a mark

only three coins in this thread so far ..... are the German half thalers that rare?
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Two of my favorites; mintages under 1,000 pieces respectively.

1732 1/2 taler
Mainz - Sede Vacante


1743 1/2 taler
Mainz - Sede Vacante


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Italian States half piastras / half scudos should also be considered.

1696 Papal States
half piastra


1734 Papal States
half piastra


1775 Papal States
half scudo
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I don't collect these, but most appreciate their beauty - congrats for sure.
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@wcg
beautiful coins indeed - the tone indicates that these coins have been in collections since a long time
thanks for sharing
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