ATB Five Ounce Silver Coins

There is also plenty of discussion about Congress/US Mint halting the Presidential dollar coin program.

I suspect that if these programs are halted, initially demand for the existing coins will rise as public interest is piqued, but then would go back down to normal levels after the news has set in for a while. Each existing coin's mintage total wouldn't be affected by a cancellation of the series, just the total number of minted coins in the pool of the series.

I don't know what the frequency is of canceling such a program... I don't believe there have been series like what we're seeing recently with the changing commemorative reverses, so I don't think there's anything to go on, really. Not sure though, just speculation. As with any series, the key dates are going to be the valuable ones, and I would hazard a guess that the 1st 5 in the series, with their relatively lower mintage #'s and occasional finish varieties will command the highest value whether the series sees its intended completion or not. That is, unless they stop minting a coin halfway through the minting process and the mintage of that coin is less than 27k (the mintage of each of the NP1-NP5 pucks), in which case it would be one of the aforementioned key dates/coins anyway.

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Just my 2 cents.

They can't cancel it without new legislation. It is written into the legislation that authorized the ATB Quarters that they would produce the 5 oz version.

Fred, BULL. Large coins have been minted by other mints, such as the one kilo Dragon, Panda, Koala and 100 Ruble coins. These are ALL ill conceived gimmicks? And ALLLLL the people the world over (including myself) that collect these are wannabe collectors? I know it doesn't fit into your parameters of what a coin is supposed to be, but just because YOU can't accept it doesn't mean myself and others are wannabes because we have a wider view. Its really annoying being insulted because of that narrow view of yours.

Teach, as was mentioned, another act of congress would be needed to cancel the series, so I don't see that happening any time soon. But if they did, I would imagine it would increase the value at least a little.

It's a cool gimmick if you ask me, but I'm new around here.
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Just my opinion of coarse..
Who knows!

Time will tell. In five years, if the program exists at all, I predict you'll be able to buy all you want for melt, which is, after all, the purpose of a bullion coin.

Remember around 40 years ago when Panama was one of the first puck sellers? To hear the pitch, they were the next svdb. Today, they sell for $115-130, before ebay reduces the net down to $100 or so. Beautiful boxed coins with $128 silver content.

Know anyone who stocked up on the philatelic/numismatic SQ covers? Pretty sure they killed those long before the series was over. America's first medals?

I watched several large threads about the ATB pucks. Yes, there were a few collectors, who couldn't answer how many people were likely to commit to collecting a $10,000+ series. Most of the comments were about how much money they would make by flipping them, or the deal they got buying them way under spot.

Insult you? Never my intention. Warning you against tying up thousands of dollars in a dead-end gimmick item when there are other beautiful coins out there begging to be adopted, yes.

I've always been an advocate of "collect what you enjoy", but also "look before you leap".

Fred if you were not trying to insult those of us that collect these, you would not have used the words "wannabe collectors". That can be construed in no good way at all, no matter how you try to spin it.

Now, you want to argue value? No problem. But using an example of some item minted in the middle of a third world jungle pit of a country hardly works. Talk about comparing apples and oranges. This is a legal tender coin (though we all know spending it is NOT an option. Can you see that? That would be hysterical. ) so is not a medal. They are absolutely beautiful designs so far, so have plenty of aesthetic value. So given these things plus their relative low mintages, I believe they will hold a premium that may well rise in time.

If I am wrong, I at least have the melt value so have not completely lost my rear end.

Flippers...that happens on any item that garners a lot of interest coming out of the gate. Same thing as is going on with the 25th anniversary sets. I am considering selling my 25th as VACookey has hers. So I can understand that aspect of it, but it doesn't make it any more or less a "gimmick".

So really, not a single thing you have said points to these being a "dead end gimmick". As with the ASE arguments that started when they came out, and still continue, it boils down to you and those that agree with you simply don't like anything that doesn't fit into your particular definition of what a coin should be.

Heres the thing though. I have no problem with you having that outlook. To me it just means that much less competition over what I want to get. I am certianly not going to sit here and insult you saying you are a narrow minded collector.

That is true, as far as I can tell the Mint has no legal authorization to make the P collectors version at all.



I don't know about "ill conceived" because they were all created to make money for the issuing governments which they did. But "gimmicks", yes I would consider them to be gimmicks.