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Commems Collection Classic: Quick Bits 124 - Second Variety Connection

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The 1921 Missouri Statehood Centennial Half Dollar and the 1921 Alabama Statehood Centennial Half Dollar are linked by their inclusion of a special mark related to their order of entry into the Union as a State. The Alabama coin includes "2X2" in its obverse field (Alabama was the 22nd State to join), the Missouri coin features "2*4" (Missouri was the 24th State).

The first to suggest such a mark was James Montgomery, Chairman of the Missouri Centennial Exposition Committee. He wrote to Charles Moore, Chairman of the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) on February 16, 1921 with a suggestion regarding the design of the Missouri half dollar:

"I desire to make the following suggestion, that the star with the figures '24' be shown on five thousand of the coins. To do this the star and figures would have to be raised on the die and after five thousand coins were struck, the star and figures could be cut off and the balance of the coins would be without the star and figures. This would enable us to sell the five thousand for a sufficient profit to pay the expense of model and die, which you price at $1,750."

1921 Missouri Statehood Centennial Half Dollar, 2*4 Variety


As we know, the request was carried out and a portion of the Missouri Statehood Centennial Half Dollars included the "2*4" mark. The Committee in charge of their distribution, however, did not charge a premium for the coins - it asked the same $1.00 as it did for the "Plain" coins. (See 1921 Missouri Statehood Centennial - Advertising A Rejected Design for more of this story.)

On September 21, 1921, CFA member James Earle Fraser wrote to HR Caemmerer, Secretary of the CFA, and stated:

"It occurs to me that information should be given to the Alabama Commission in charge of the Centennial fifty-cent piece as to the way in which the Missouri Centennial coin was marked with a special mark, and five thousand struck and sold at a premium. This might aid them in carrying out their project for the coin."

Fraser's message was apparently conveyed to the Alabama Centennial Commission - who was agreeable - as it also had two varieties of its half dollar coined: one "Plain" and one incorporating a "2X2" in its obverse field.

1921 Alabama Statehood Centennial, 2X2 Variety


So, it appears that James Montgomery, Chairman of the Missouri Centennial Exposition Committee, could be considered the man behind the second variety of both the Missouri Statehood Centennial Half Dollar and the Alabama Statehood Centennial Half Dollar. (With an assist from James Earle Fraser.) Who would've thunk it!


For more of my posts about commemorative coins and medals, including others about the Alabama and Missouri half dollars, see: Commems Collection.




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Interesting tidbits, thanks.
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Interesting connection indeed between the two coins and the origin of the 'special mark'.

I propose a secondary assist to Laura Gardin Fraser, designer of the Alabama Centennial coin.

Although you document that James proposed the idea to the Secretary of the CFA I have to surely believe James and Laura spoke of the project and she was after all the one who executed it.
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Although you document that James proposed the idea to the Secretary of the CFA I have to surely believe James and Laura spoke of the project and she was after all the one who executed it.

It seems very plausible considering their relationship. I haven't seen any documentation of such private conversations, but wouldn't really expect such.

I do wonder, however, as I believe I've read that the "2X2" (Alabama) and "2*4" (Missouri) marks were added to the models/dies at the Mint by Mint staff vs. by the original designer/sculptor.

Thanks for the thoughtful comment!



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as I believe I've read that the "2X2" (Alabama) and "2*4" (Missouri) marks were added to the models/dies at the Mint by Mint staff vs. by the original designer/sculptor.


I was unaware of that detail. So perhaps my secondary assist to Laura was unwarranted.
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I refer @commems to our 2012 discussion on your lovely Grant with Star variety:

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...ly_ID=982220

This current thread on the 2*2 varieties caused me to wonder about the origins of the Grant with Star variety.

I reread the prior thread and there was no answer as to how the Star came to be.

Do you have any scholarly insights to share?

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This current thread on the 2*2 varieties caused me to wonder about the origins of the Grant with Star variety.

I'm drafting a story on the Grant coins, I hope to post it over the weekend.

Spoiler Alert: It's a story that is more about $$$ than historical relevance!



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Thanks for sharing, commems! The Alabama, Missouri and Grant issues, along with the small variations in the dates on the Pilgrim and Boone commemoratives and the thin/thick varieties of the Norse medal, were the initial reasons for me to start expanding my type set of classic commemoratives. One thing led to another after that and it eventually grew to a full set...
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Most interesting. Thank you for sharing.

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I'm drafting a story on the Grant coins, I hope to post it over the weekend.
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Clear and Educational Insights, I now know the Exact reasons for the Special marks, Thanks COMMEMS,
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