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 Posted 11/02/2024  11:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Fresh Find to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Market value of coins certified or raw why wouldn't we go off of the average of the most recent sales within say 5 years to find market value...?
How often is gray sheet updated?
Where does gray sheet get their values from?
How can a person go off of ebay sold items for any coin that's worth a substantial amount, substantial to me is $800 to 1,000 or more because it seems to me that if you have a coin of that value you would be looking at an auction house and not ebay. I think people are wanting others to use ebay sold items so they can obtain the coins that they want on a cheaper level and then take them to Heritage or add them to their collection. Because I go to ebay sold lists and look at values and then I turn around and see an auction for 20 30 40% more.
If I recall maybe a year ago maybe a little more coins were going for records amounts so just like the stock market why doesn't it the value go up why do you rely on ebay sold listings it doesn't make sense to me an item is worth what somebody will pay for it and going off of an average of sale of documented sales for the past 5 years like PCGS does is the most reliable way they do include some ebay sold listings also...
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 Posted 11/03/2024  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
5 years is a long time in any market. Averages trail the leading data points.

ebay is faster for the seller to receive payment, has lower fees, has a lot more visibly, and surprising high number of transactions of coins.
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So are you saying it's Quantity not quality Type of thing Or are you saying there's just so many sales to compare to?
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Lots of questions...

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Market value of coins certified or raw why wouldn't we go off of the average of the most recent sales within say 5 years to find market value...?

That's how I look at it, but 5 years is too long. For common coins, I would go for the last 30 or 60 days if you can find enough data. It means you need the time to do your own research rather than buy an off-the-shelf product that has someone else's result based on whatever algorithm they use, but takes less time.

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How often is gray sheet updated?
Where does gray sheet get their values from?

Someone else will answer. I've never seen a gray sheet.

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How can a person go off of ebay sold items for any coin that's worth a substantial amount, substantial to me is $800 to 1,000 or more because it seems to me that if you have a coin of that value you would be looking at an auction house and not ebay.

If you're planning to buy or sell the item on ebay you should do your research on ebay. If you're planning to buy or sell a coin through an auction house, you should do your research on auction sales.
For lots of common coin types ebay is the largest marketplace and it's easy to get the data. Two other good reasons to look at ebay data.

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