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One Of These 10 Cent Proofs Doesn't Look Like The Others.

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Does the 2005 look like a silver proof?




Yes I know I should weigh it but I don't have access to a balance at the moment.

Yes I know the pictures are small but I'm talking about the colour of the 2005 compared with the others.
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 Posted 07/09/2023  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It certainly looks different. I admit to being flabbergasted when you say that you should weigh it — since the circulating cupronickel 10 cent coin is struck to the exact weight specification established for shillings late in the reign of George III (sixty-six to the Troy pound of metal), the decision to make silver proofs at a different weight is utterly beyond me.
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 Posted 07/09/2023  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OzCollection to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice finds MachinMachinMan

It does look a lot more white than the others.

Maybe do the ping test on it, see if it rings when you tap it
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 Posted 07/09/2023  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say it is silver.
Try this
https://www.coincommunity.com/colle...sue-test.asp
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Australia has never issued clad coins,
so a tissue will be of little use for the detection a sliver or silver clad coin.

Although a comparative ping tone test will be useful to tell the difference between a solid silver proof coin and a solid copper nickel proof coin , this test is not necessary either.

No sterling silver (925 fine) Masterpieces in silver sets were issued for the date 2005,
however,
6500 sets of the RAM Decimal Pure (1000 fine) Silver proof sets were issued for the date 2005.
It follows that if the coin in question is in fact composed of silver, it could have only come from a set broken out of one of the above mentioned 6,500 sets.

Dealers have these coins available for sale at around AUD $15 or $20, if they are in their individual capsules. However, I have never seen a 2005 silver proof 10 Cent coin for sale, that has been removed from it's capsule, but such an occurrence is plausible.
The coin in question is not in a capsule, and so it's weight can be investigated.

A standard copper nickel proof or strike issued for circulation weighs 5.65 grams.
The 2005 fine silver coins were issued with the same physical dimensions as their circulating counterparts, but were struck in pure silver, and since pure silver is 17 7 % denser than standard copper nickel coinage alloy, 2005 pure silver proof 10 Cents should weigh 17.7% greater, at
6.65 grams.

As an aside, the denser silver coin will have a lower ping tone pitch, but this test is not necessary if you have scales accurate enough to detect the 17.7% increase (1.00 grams) in weight.

Many happy investigations !
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Australia has never issued clad coins, so a tissue will be of little use for the detection a sliver or silver clad coin.


So far as I can see, whether or not a coin has a core of a different material than the surface cannot be evaluated by the " tissue test". It may be of help in distinguishing a silver surface from a cupronickel surface, and the Australian decimal coins are made of the very same 75/25 cupronickel alloy as the surfaces of US clad coins. Of course the latter are most easily distinguished by the visible copper on the edge.
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Interesting find!


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It may be of help in distinguishing a silver surface from a cupronickel surface, and the Australian decimal coins are made of the very same 75/25 cupronickel alloy as the surfaces of US clad coins.
I agree.
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Did the coin come out from circulation? Would be surprised if that went through the machines as I thought they are calibrated for weight and size.
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 Posted 07/12/2023  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Did the coin come out from circulation?


No, I bought a sheet of proof 10 cent coins back when you could find bargains on ebay. Cost me less than $2 a coin.

Haven't really looked at them closely until now.
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