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Grade On This 1922-D Cent - Weak Reverse

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I never could grade a weak reverse 22-D Lincoln Cent.......what say you? Thanks..........



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Boy that's tough. Obverse is a full VF, but reverse leaves me just scratching my head.
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Yeah, the 1922-D has a myriad of features making it harder to grade accurately...

My call is a straight grade of VF-30 with a very weakly struck reverse with a bunch of Progressive Indirect Design Transfer (PIDT) from very worn dies here...
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i can't argue with that.
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I'll go with VF.
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Thanks for the information and the grades - and that is why I leave the grading on these to people who know - To me, I look at the reverse and say AG - LOL!
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Very cool 22D! I like it, grease filled IB in LIBERTY and T in TRUST. The reverse is very late die state and you can see some IDT, typical for the issue. The cheek and jaw are pretty flattened, about the only places to accurately gauge the wear.

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Looks VF-30 to me. Decent looking coin.
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Now that I look again, the reverse has been cleaned. I thought it was your pictures but with the white background I can tell your white balance is correct. The reverse color should match the obverse. You can see traces of the original color in the EPU near the rim.

Was the cleaning intentional? Probably not, most intentional cleanings focus on the obverse. Just a consequence of heavy circulation. Nonetheless, it's cleaned.
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The reverse color should match the obverse

I edited each picture separately the best I could to bring out the features so I didn't have to take anymore pictures. That is why their is a discrepancy in coloration.
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Agree the reverse appears cleaned at one point, but still think it straight-grades.
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If you want, I can make it darker but the details seem to wash out a bit.........

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Thanks for the replies.
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pretty much have to ignore the rev on these. really close to VF35 but ill net it to VF30
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pretty much have to ignore the rev on these. really close to VF35 but ill net it to VF30

Interesting......I always wondered if a worn die would be considered in the grade of a coin. I don't remember seeing if there is a MS example of weak reverse.
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Interesting piece. I'll sit at VF30. Would have been fun to examine one of these (this die pair) when it exited the striking chamber.
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