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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5124 Posts |
A few days ago walked across the border to pickup my Certified coins from NGC that were delivered to our USPS box in Sumas WA.
As usual had a copy of all necessary documents for both the USA
and Canada Customs agents .
Walking back into Canada showed the CBSA agent the coins and
the paperwork then the fun began ! The agent decided that in her great wisdom that there was going to be GST and PST payable on
... Wait for it .. The plastic cases that the certificate of authenticity is in !! The tariff number is 4202.12.90.00 for reference.
To let you all know , we have been sending coins to the major
grading services since the 1980s , this is the very first time ever that
we have had to pay anything . On numerous occasions we have been told there is nothing in the Customs act that covers coin
certification and expertise. I would share that we have done exactly
the same thing with all three major services on hundreds of occasions!
Any fellow members have similar experience or gong shows to
report or share?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3307 Posts |
If you don't mind sharing, what sort of value did they establish for the plastic cases?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1958 Posts |
PCGS puts the value of the grading service on their customs declarations as I recall
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5124 Posts |
Absolutely, the FULL VALUE of the NGC grading fee of $23 PLUS THE Shipping .
You just can't make this stuff up !
The plastic is worth , maybe a dollar at most if you had to buy it !
If anyone can supply it would love the tariff number on
Coin certification / expertise
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
854 Posts |
Yeah, that's a first. Nice that you found a rare over-achieving civil servant.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5124 Posts |
Tripoli, Too funny !  ! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2169 Posts |
Wow just wow.
I for one would have given her a piece of my mind.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, do you mean this? Quote:
42 - CHAPTER 42 - ARTICLES OF LEATHER; SADDLERY AND HARNESS; TRAVEL GOODS, HANDBAGS AND SIMILAR CONTAINERS; ARTICLES OF ANIMAL GUT (OTHER THAN SILKWORM GUT)
42.02 - Trunks, suit-cases, vanity-cases, executive-cases, brief-cases, school satchels, spectacle cases, binocular cases, camera cases, musical instrument cases, gun cases, holsters and similar containers; travelling-bags, insulated food or beverage bags, toilet bags, rucksacks, handbags, shopping bags, wallets, purses, map-cases, cigarette-cases, tobacco-pouches, tool bags, sports bags, bottle-cases, jewellery boxes, powder-boxes, cutlery cases and similar containers, of leather or of composition leather, of sheeting of plastics, of textile materials, of vulcanized fibre or of paperboard, or wholly or mainly covered with such materials or with paper.
Trunks, suit-cases, vanity-cases, executive-cases, brief-cases, school satchels and similar containers:
4202.12 - With outer surface of plastics or of textile materials and then 4202.12.90 is "other." So they're jewelry boxes? Vanity cases? I see some humorous (to me) items in the tariff code, for example "Beak guards and blinders for pheasants" (3926.90.10). |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3307 Posts |
Is the agents determination final? I hope you have some way to dispute this.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5124 Posts |
I filed what's called a B2G adjustment .
More bureaucracy, I guess .
My main object, and it is important, is to pin them
down to the proper tariff code for items that are exported only
for expertise . Coins , stamps , collectibles of any kind.
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Valued Member
Canada
333 Posts |
Unbelievable!
Good to know! Thanks for sharing!!!
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5357 Posts |
Very very hard to believe, actually not surprising with what ANY government will do. I hope you got the agent's name.
Edited by okiecoiner
03/30/2023 5:46 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
289 Posts |
I had the opposite happen. I purchased some Canadian coins from an American for a ways north of $10,000 Canadian. It was only a small set of 6 coins, so not very substantial. Unlike what some people would likely do with such a small package, I declared them. The guy took one look at them and sent me to the specialty counter for customs. The guy turned the PCGS slabs over for a minute and then said, "Can you spend them?" I replied well I guess technically you could yes as they are legal currency. He said okay sounds good and put them through with no duty at all. I had been prepared for quite a lot of duty so that was a nice surprise! Best experience to date with customs of any type.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@ Levaril
That happened to me as well last November coming home
from some English coin auctions.
Was sent to secondary at YVR and the shift supervisor came over
and we discussed the coins . He said he was a bit of a collector himself.
Asked if the pieces were all still legal tender currency in their countries of issue .
Yes I said , he said have a nice evening !
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Valued Member
United States
289 Posts |
Please let us know the outcome of your journey ... I travel across the border frequently.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
854 Posts |
I had something similiar with my 6 FREE PSA submission years ago. I had to go to Customs at YVR to clear the package.....dude mentioned that they could assess on the grading fees......I reminded them again, it was zero cost because they were my free subs from joining PSA......took awhile to digest that fact, but eventually got my stuff home unmolested.
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