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Press Manager
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Jack Young - For the latest installment from the "Dark Corner", I will review a certified "fake" example of the scarce 1796 Gold $2.50 No Stars quarter eagle. With a reported mintage of just 963 and the only one of its type in the series, even a low-grade or damaged example is worth big bucks! And the reason I state "fake" versus counterfeit will be revealed in a bit. As always, I'll start with images of the certified example: Slab images (Certified and graded AG3 NO STARS - BENT CLEANED)A dealer had this example come across their counter and was asking for opinions on it. My first reaction was What kind of a bird is that? Comparisons to a genuine example of a 1796 No Stars quarter eagle show more differences between the two to even count, but the date is a definite giveaway: Obverse comparison to a genuine example on the right (image courtesy PCGS CoinFacts) Date comparison (Subject coin on top)More differences on the reverse including the rendition of an "eagle". Reverse comparison to a genuine example on the right (image courtesy PCGS CoinFacts)Internet searches for a possible second example turned up a probable match, a Gallery Mint version. An obverse comparison shows the same profile/expression and blocky date: Obverse comparison to a Gallery Mint example (image courtesy Heritage Auctions)The reverse of this potential second specimen appears to be a match as well, although the subject example has been worn down to likely hide some of the Gallery Mint details (can you say COPY?). Reverse comparison to a Gallery Mint example (image courtesy Heritage Auctions)This would not be the first time a legitimate copy was worn and or tooled to hide the mandated copy mark in an attempt to make an "authentic" low-grade example; there was actually a GMM "1793 Large Cent" that made it into a certified holder several years back. Read More: Counterfeit Detection Series Check out 1796 Capped Bust Quarter Eagles on ebay.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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So which service certified the fake?
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Forum Dad
 United States
23686 Posts |
I'll see if I can get Jack to answer that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4233 Posts |
I don't think he reveals which TPG so they don't get too mad at him (especially PCGS, since they never make a mistake). Sometimes you can figure it out.
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Valued Member
United States
482 Posts |
Not a TPG I had (or have) any dealings with so no problem showing here:  I don't show the TPGs in my published articles...
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1044 Posts |
Thanks for posting the holder as my guess had been PCI. Met Landis (gallery mint) many years ago at a summer seminar and he is one heck of an engraver.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3619 Posts |
This coin has been in a thread before, I believe it is called "How Dangerous are GMM's as Counterfeits" or something like that. Cool stuff.
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Valued Member
United States
482 Posts |
Yes, that was my thread as well...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1150 Posts |
Interesting that a search on that TPG's site does not pull up a coin - assuming 202109 is serial. So they either yanked it or the actual holder is a fake as well.
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Valued Member
United States
482 Posts |
Holder is good; older cert does not show on the new NTC site. 
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New Member
Canada
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My instinct is that it's a "contemporary counterfeit". In other words, not a fake to fool collectors, but rather counterfeited around the time to pass off as $2.50 in commerce.
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Valued Member
United States
482 Posts |
It is a purposely worn Gallery Mint example.
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