Coin Community Family of Web Sites
300,000 items to help build your collection! Ken's Numismatic eBay Store US and World Coins, Bullion, and Exonumia. Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer
Subscribe to our Youtube Channel! Check out our Pinterest!
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.
Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

Counterfeit Detection: Common Morgan Dollar Fakes

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 2,275Next Topic  
Press Manager
Learn More...
CCFPress's Avatar
United States
1420 Posts
 Posted 10/13/2021  3:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CCFPress to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
NGC - With interest in these beloved silver dollars reaching new heights, it's important to remember that counterfeiters often target this series.

There is high interest in the 2021 Morgan dollars soon to be issued by the US Mint to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the silver series' swan song. This is generating greater enthusiasm for the vintage versions of these beloved coins, which were issued from 1878 to 1904, and then again in 1921.

NGC has certified more than 3.7 million Morgan dollars, and its expert grading team has identified plenty of counterfeits as well. Here are some examples, which demonstrate the lengths to which counterfeiters will go to make an illicit buck.

Altered Date: 1893-S Morgan Dollar

NGC has compiled a list of the Top 50 Most Commonly Counterfeited U.S. Coins, and the first Morgan dollar on the list (in the No. 10 spot) is the 1893-S. Often, a counterfeiter will add an 'S' mintmark to a much more common example from Philadelphia (which has no mintmark). In the case of the Morgan dollar pictured here, a counterfeiter opted to move metal around in the date on the obverse. The misshapen '3' is a giveaway that this coin started its life with a different date.


An altered date 1893-S Morgan Dollar


Detail of the date of an authentic 1893-S Morgan dollar (left) and the altered example

Joined Halves: 1889-CC Morgan Dollar

The other Morgan on NGC's "Top 50" list is the 1889-CC. Similar to the 1893-S, many fakes of the 1889-CC are created by gluing a 'CC' mintmark to the proper spot on the reverse. In the case of the 1889-CC shown here, the counterfeiter showed some ambition by joining the obverse of a Philadelphia Morgan bearing the 1889 date with the reverse of a Morgan bearing the 'CC' mintmark, likely from 1883 or 1884. A closer look reveals a seam at the edge of the coin, unmasking the deception.


1889-CC Morgan dollar with joined halves


A seam can be seen on the rim of the reverse

Added mintmark: 1886-S Morgan Dollar

Counterfeiters don't always target high-value key-date coins like the 1889-CC and 1893-S. In the case of this coin, a counterfeiter created the appearance of an 1886-S issue (worth only a few hundred dollars) by adding a mintmark to an 1886 from Philadelphia, one of the easiest Morgans to find in Mint State. While phony mintmarks are often glued to the coin (often creating a discolored area), this counterfeiter took things to another level by drilling through the edge of the coin to emboss a new mintmark from inside the coin!


1886 Morgan dollar with an added "S" mintmark

A small gray area can be seen on the reeding on the part of the edge closest to the mintmark

Possible laser-created dies: 1894-O Morgan Dollar

Forgers are taking advantage of technology to assist in their shameful deeds, including creating dies by using lasers. Such a trick is suspected in the case of this counterfeit. Sometimes, counterfeit dies are struck with insufficient force, creating weak details that easily identify a coin as a fake. In this case, the details in Liberty's hair and ear are unusually strong, outpacing what is expected from ones struck at the New Orleans mint.

Counterfeit 1894-O Morgan Dollar


Close-ups of the counterfeit (left) and genuine (right) 1894-O Morgan Dollars

A fake error: 1884-O Morgan Dollar

Occasionally, a counterfeiter add toning or something else to distract a would-be buyer from potential flaws in a spurious coin. In this case, the counterfeiter mimicked an off-center strike error, a dramatic mistake that would add significant value to a genuine coin. But this fake has plenty of red flags, including the incorrect shape of Liberty's eye.


This counterfeit Morgan dollar error features rounded high points, dark areas and an eye that differs from a genuine specimen.


Note the eye shape of a genuine Morgan dollar (left) versus the counterfeit (right)

Fake GSA Holder: 1879-CC Morgan Dollar

Here's a particularly inventive counterfeit. Not only did the forger create a phony Morgan dollar, but they also created a phony GSA Holder to house it. Such holders, with their distinctive black cores, were used for coins released from the GSA Hoard in the 1970s. Comparing the fake holder here to a genuine one certified by NGC shows the inconsistencies in its design.


A fake GSA 1879 Morgan dollar (left) and a genuine example (right)
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
157664 Posts
 Posted 10/15/2021  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty scary stuff here. But this always impresses me...

Quote:
While phony mintmarks are often glued to the coin (often creating a discolored area), this counterfeiter took things to another level by drilling through the edge of the coin to emboss a new mintmark from inside the coin!
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
NumisEd's Avatar
United States
4375 Posts
 Posted 10/15/2021  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not scary at all, just sad.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
157664 Posts
Pillar of the Community
fortcollins's Avatar
United States
2887 Posts
 Posted 10/15/2021  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With one exception (a transfer die counterfeit 1899-O), none of these fakes are VAM-correct. VAMming is still a line of defense.

Pillar of the Community
Morgans Dad's Avatar
United States
4881 Posts
 Posted 10/15/2021  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like any other topic, Study, Research and Experience will aid in recognition........ VAMS were another distraction for Another World of Coin Collecting... A New Collective Focus on MORGANS and The Peace dollars.... Thank You, Mr Allen and Mr Mallis .!!! Love a good Strong Clashed Die, The older the better too.
Rest in Peace
dave700x's Avatar
United States
10625 Posts
 Posted 10/15/2021  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
VAMming is still a line of defense.

This is key to the Morgan dollar series and any other series as far as that goes. Study and know exactly what you are purchasing.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
157664 Posts
 Posted 10/18/2021  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
With one exception (a transfer die counterfeit 1899-O), none of these fakes are VAM-correct. VAMming is still a line of defense.
That is amazing to know!
  Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 2,275Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums