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They Say That There Is No Known Error Of This Date, Y'all Tell Me

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to me it sure looks like a double P.
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What are you seeing as an error? I see damage from the rim toward JS.
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yes there is damage to the coin, but you can see where the damage is. like you said towards the I will try to get better pictures of the coin, if you in large the picture,I am sure that you can see that the p is not damaged. it's clear that it's a p on top of a p.
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Better pics would help,but the P looks like Machine Doubling.
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The P appears to be MD, as John advised.
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Need better properly oriented picture. A repunched mintmark IS possible for this year. I'm not say that that is what this is though, can't tell from this image.
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Like the others have mentioned, a larger clear pic would help, but it does look to me like a piece of the Fred Sanford Collection. I'll write back if I get more information.
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I will try to get better pictures of the coin, see I really posted this item to show a point. it has already been approved of being the real deal. you can enlarge the picture and clearly see that the p is double stamped. but for some reason no matter how clear that the picture is. someone is always going to say that there is no clear images and that it's nothing but Machine Doubling. I am sorry and don't mean any disrespect,but you can go back on any form and look. just about every response to any coin is rejected as some kind of Machine Doubling or something. heck I even took a picture through a jewelers loupe and still yet received the same response.
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May I ask who attributed this as being the real deal? And, if it is the real deal then why try to make a game of this? I am not saying yea or nay, but to everyone's defense your pic is not really clear enough to give you a fair assessment.
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heck I even took a picture through a jewelers loupe and still yet received the same response.


provide us with that picture, and we can give you a better opinion.
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I have to disagree with you, Swampboy. I have posted several examples of legitimate doubling, and I have also posted examples of Machine Doubling. When the doubling is legitimate, the people here are more than willing to admit it and congratulate me. I have also posted examples where not everyone agrees on the specific error, or if it is an error at all. Everyone here is taking a best guess based on only a picture. Some of these people have decades of experience and have assessed thousands of coins. Personally, I think their opinion is worth listening to.
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504Swampboy77,
Who told you it was the real deal? You could send it to Wexler or VarietyVista as long as you believe what they would tell you. If you want to,post a few better pics of the MM at different angles.
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I always say there are no no varieties, not errors for the post 1973 listings from Variety Vista. Errors and varieties are two different things. I classify coin into three groups plus two sub groups:

1. Die varieties are created on the dies.
2. Error coins are usually one of a kind examples.
3. Die events produce hundreds of the thousands of examples from a compromised die that was normal when it started out.
4. Striking errors are happenings during the striking process. Some are errors and other are just common happenings, like Machine Doubling. (very common).
5. Then there is also coin events where the coin was altered/damaged during circulation.
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