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1883 Shield 5c Grade Needed

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The lines came through better on this close-upshot:
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Not the best pics, bur guessing MS-64 or better,
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with Coinfrog.
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I'm with Coinfrog.
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Looks MS but photo lighting is making hard to see the luster an surfaces.
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you photo lighting is just washing out the coin. I'm not sure what the in-hand surfaces actually look like.

the stars are well struck up. I think the obv is weak strike more than wear. without better photos I can see it at MS64 as well depending on remaining luster which I can't really tell from these.

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Need clearer photos, can't even see contact marks.
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Mpmedia, are you happy with the grade? AU58 seems to be the right call. The obverse does seem to have some rub. Otherwise it is a very nice looking Shield nickel!
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looks like it's been overdipped.
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. happy with the grade?


No way

I put a close-up of the shield That I personally took, and wanted to specifically find out if there is any wear in that region. If it's not in that area, then where would it be? I still think it's at least a 63. I'd appreciate somebody picking apart the PCGS photo and pointing out where I'm wrong or right with justification to have it resubmitted for reconsideration.
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The following issues are what I see that brings it down to AU58: Only showing luster in the protected areas around the letters on both the obverse and reverse. I circled in blue the area of the shield that is showing circulation rub. The design lines are almost gone from wear. The tip of the leaf is also showing some circulation rub.
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I know it's no consolation, but the coin certainly is an attractive example.
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I hadn't clicked on the PCGS link. The areas that slider points out could be a function of a weak strike. For me, the more salient difference is in the surfaces. Gold and silver are significantly softer than nickel and as a result, luster or the surface ridges look different in nickel coins. The ridges/luster in gold and silver coins are higher and more pronounced. The luster on nickel coins tends to be more subtle and fragile. One way that I see this as a circulated coin is that in neither the original pictures, nor the trueview, do you see any luster. This indicates to me that the luster has worn off, or has been chemically removed. Lustrous nickels tend to reflect light and look bright. Nickels without luster tend to look grey or dull.
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i also tend to agree with the PCGS grading of AU58 ,your second image posted show's a clear and defined slight circulation wear on the upper shield lines.

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I'd appreciate somebody picking apart the PCGS photo and pointing out where I'm wrong or right with justification to have it resubmitted for reconsideration.


I don't believe anyone is trying to prove you wrong here, you asked member's opinion and it was given.
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