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Help Needed To Identify George III Half Penny

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 Posted 03/02/2021  8:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sofia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again!
This is a George III half Penny, but I thought they started in 1770. But on this coin I can see the year 1741. Could anyone advise me how is that possible?
Best regards, Sofia.



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 Posted 03/02/2021  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the circulation wear and the fact that it was supposedly minted 19 years before the start of George III's reign, I'd tentatively call it a contemporary counterfeit.
On an other note, does that say "GRORGIVS?" Interesting piece.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Correct.
Heavily worn contemporary counterfeit of a 1770-1775 halfpenny. The errors were intentional.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a contemporary counterfeit - it is not listed in Coleman, and I do quite a bit of dealing in CCs, and have not yet seen this type - an interesting find!
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 Posted 03/03/2021  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed, contemporary counterfeit and probably the most interesting coin you have posted so far @Sofia!

Value is tricky - there are collectors for these and the fact that it does not appear in the lists will count in its favour. Grade is not great, but few of them were high grade even when struck. (They were made ready-worn to disguise their forgery.)

Could you provide diameter and weight? For some reason it looks almost farthing sized to me, which would open up a whole new discussion.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sofia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all.
PaddyB: :)
I had lots of interesting finds lately bought from Auctions, but did not want to stress some of the Members with my questions. :)
Diameter: 28.5mm, weight: approximately 7.5g
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 Posted 03/03/2021  06:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That confirms halfpenny and counterfeit. The correct weight for GIII halfpennies is over 9g.
Interesting though as unlisted contemporary forgery. (Not for me - I don't collect these.)
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 Posted 03/03/2021  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please crop photos before posting...thanks. We only need to see the coin not the background.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sofia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, John1, I will. I still don't know how, but I will figure it out in the end. :)
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 Posted 03/03/2021  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you get one of the free photo editing applications, it is very easy. I use Photoscape, which works fine on a Windows 10 laptop. There may be others to recommend for other platforms.
PM me if you want further guidance.
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 Posted 03/03/2021  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sofia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I just use my phone. I will download the App there. Thank you, PaddyB!
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