1991 Ram Set With Error 1c Coin

Hi Trout1105, how on earth would that happen? Did the mint have a plausible explanation?

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think there is a bit of an optical illusion here as all the close scrutiny I have done indicates the mark is incused rather than raised above the surface. I'll try to take a better close up, but light reflecting off the plastic makes it difficult.

Sorry awildheart but I'm in agreement with trout, whatever it is it's see through,so the most logical explaination is that it is glue.

Trout1105, mate, very hard to NOT take this the wrong way, especially given the resounding silence from ANYONE on the other thread to deny they think I am a shed jobber.

1. I have never sold a coin on ebay - or anywhere else - EVER.
2. If I were to sell a coin, the description would be scrupulously honest and factual - to my probable detriment - because I have Asperger's and find it next to impossible to knowingly tell a fib or be ambiguous with my wording or to use hyperbole (hence my ongoing career difficulties as people don't want scrupulous honesty and an avid attention to detail in the workplace).
3. "Justification from the good members here" wouldn't be proof enough for me promote a genuine and/or rare error coin if I was going to sell one. I don't put that much store in many of the opinions expressed here as it has been proven over and over that particular members dismiss new types of errors if they haven't seen it or read about it before.
4. And even more ridiculous is the implied suggestion that I would actually think a legitimate promotional and selling tool would be to include a vague statement along the lines of "and an online CCF member posted a comment saying it looks genuine, so it must be real".
5. Yes, I am hoping to find something unique to sell (as would most coin collectors and noodlers at some stage) as I desperately need the money at the moment. I have had to finally realise after 39 years in the work force that I am unemployable and cannot last in most work places because of my Asperger's.
6. I have relied on this online forum for information and for sharing a common interest as I live over 1,350 kilometres north of Brisbane and do very little domestic travel which makes it very hard to get to any coin dealers. And my Asperger's, again, makes it impossible for me to enjoy participating in a group activity in person hence the preference for an online forum.




Did I mention I have Asperger's? Main strength is attention to detail and eliminating the obvious.

My life has been a continual battle to be accepted for who I am, and frankly, I can't be bothered explaining myself anymore, especially here in this online forum, where people I have never met have publicly denounced me (by omission) and insulted my integrity.

Hi awildheart, sorry to hear of your battle through your life.
I have not commented on the other 2 mint sets thread or in previous discussions about your error mint sets as I myself have an 86 set with an 85 one dollar coin in it,real or not I have no idea & also have no idea of how to prove or disprove it's authenticity.
I have had people tell me that it's not genuine without even taking a look at it but I have never taken offense to their comments as everyone has & is entitled to their own opinion.
If I took offense to every post that I did'nt agree with on a coin forum i'd spend my whole life being angry & that frame of mind is no good for anyones well being.
Please try to not take things as a personal attack on yourself or your honesty.

Hey guys,
Ok my 2 cents worth

looking at the close ups it's hard to say if the issue is the coin or the polymer covering it. My gut call is that we have an optical distortion in the polymer.

My reasoning is that if you look at the second close up, you can see the raised portion of the letters extend through the distortion. If the "groove" were either raised above the coin surface or incused into the surface I don't think you would get the same effect.

What would be interesting to know is if the "groove" moves in relation to the coin when looking at it from low angle to perpendicular to the coin surface. I think this may tell us if the "groove" we are looking at is above the coin or not.

(Note: I'm using the term "groove" to describe the defect we are seeing, not to imply where that defect is as at this point I'm not sure)

Cheers
Pete

It's definitely not incused in the coin.
1) in the second photo you can see that the distortion is lit from underneath, just like the queens chin is.
2) The letters of "elizabeth" can clearly be seen through the distortion.

It really does look like glue or resin and as PST suggested it may actually be on the underside of the packaging rather than on the coin itself.