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Hi, I thought I had better start a new thread rather than hi-jack ShaneW's topic. I had mentioned this before on the forum, but can't find the thread, and interest has been expressed in seeing these piccies. Any new thoughts about whether or not these sets would attract a higher price? Previous comments on the forum suggested I send them back and get a 'proper' set. Apologies for the bad photos, but I responded immediately and didn't see the need for focus on details. 2004  2008  |
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Pillar of the Community
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In Canada here that would fetch a premium. Nice set.
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Any new thoughts about whether or not these sets would attract a higher price? Did you get these Mint sets directly from the RAM? If it is a genuine Mint packaging error then it would command a higher price. However too many of these are fake "shed jobs" in which case it would be worth less.
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Yes, very curious indeed, AW did mention that he got them straight from the mint over in the other thread. http://goccf.com/t/175262&whichpage=1I had read somewhere that it was not that hard to remove coins from the unc mint sets, but not being a collector of them I don't know for sure. If that is the case it would certainly make it more difficult for AW to sell them as people would likely just assume they'd been tampered with. Nice sets though Awildeheart! |
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 .... funnily enough Trout I was thinking of you when I posted that!
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Hiya, I've gone through my paperwork and I bought the 2004 set directly from the RAM in 2004.
However, it seems I bought the 2008 set from Jaggard's in 2012 as a 'proper' set - which clears up my own confusion about how I came to buy the 2008 set AFTER becoming a CCF member which was in 2011/2012.
But I'm fairly certain that Jaggard's wouldn't sell a damaged or tampered set as a genuine set.
I assume the 2008 set was old stock that Jaggard's initially bought wholesale directly from the RAM. As the coins aren't visable until the inner sleeve is removed from the outer envelope, the actual contents wouldn't be known as a resaler of RAM products is very unlikely to open every set to ensure they are complete.
I've studied the 2008 set quite thoroughly and can't see any evidence of tampering - but I might have missed something as I don't know signs to look for. But the packaging is unbent, uncreased, uniformly shiny and looks untouched in any way. Any clues what I should be looking for?
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04/19/2014 12:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Having opened many RAM Mint Sets my conclusion would be you cannot remove without leaving signs of tampering
The plastic covers for these sets are not sealed but the cardboard surrounding the plastic cover is
Only way to get to coins is to cut through cardboard overlay which forms part of the sleeve
If you cannot see and openings/gaps in packaging I'd say error is genuine
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04/19/2014 05:43 am
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I've gone through my paperwork and I bought the 2004 set directly from the RAM in 2004.
I assume the 2008 set was old stock that Jaggard's initially bought wholesale directly from the RAM. It sounds like they are genuine errors..... But I would like to know what the odds are of someone randomly receiving 2 error sets like that 
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But I would like to know what the odds are of someone randomly receiving 2 error sets like that Hmmmm, MobOfRoos, if I read between the lines of that comment, I wonder if that explains why there haven't been many opinions expressed here. At the risk of sounding paranoid, I'm now wondering if fellow forum members suspect me of being a shed jobber as I have come up with a quite a few unusual coins that have been blown off as being PMD.  I can assure forum members that as I have Asperger's syndrome I can not even answer untruthfully about how I am feeling if someone asks me "how are you?". My brain is hard wired to NOT be able to do - or blindly accept - things that are illogical, untruthful, or deceptive etc (unless of course I don't see through someone being sarcastic or ironic with me - then I am as gullible as hell). So, pushing the odds even further, check out my next new topic showing an error coin in a 1991 RAM set. 
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So, pushing the odds even further, check out my next new topic showing an error coin in a 1991 RAM set. 
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Stick with it awildeheart - I don't think you are a shed jobber
We all pursue our love of coins with the hope that one day we will unearth that which is truly rare
At the same time forums are communities geared for debate - so perhaps don't take things too personally - after all you know the truth and the truth is mightier than people's opinions
So that aside move forward and pursue another mint set anomaly
Cheers
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Ok shed jobber, Nope not even a little bit. A guy with his eyes open, absolutely. Now that that is out of the way, a theory on these sets. The mint sets from memory don't get sealed around each individual coin. Rather the case is like a tray with indents/bubbles for each coin that gets sealed around the edge. If this is the case then I'd guess it is possible for the case to "warp" allowing a coin to move from it's "bubble" and get hidden under the cardboard. Can you feel if this is the case AW? Cheers Pete |
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