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1931 S Cent: A Lesson In Scrutiny, And Still A Great Coin

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 Posted 01/23/2025  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucidfind to your friends list
Thanks!
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 Posted 01/23/2025  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
to the CCF
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 Posted 01/23/2025  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marve65 to your friends list
1931-S A great Lincoln Cent to collect. Hopefully yours will "re-tone" to a more respectable color so it won't be so obvious of a previous cleaning.
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 Posted 01/23/2025  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
To CCF! Still a nice coin, even with the cleaning.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucidfind to your friends list
Thanks. I picked this up at a new local shop. We hadn't had a coin shop around for a decade or more, so I was pretty stoked to see one open up. I second-guessed myself and the owner was very convincing on the not being cleaned part. Two of the coins I picked up from him were cleaned, needles to say I need to work on my skills at detecting cleaned coins.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Hard to tell much from the photos. Suggest using a white background so we can gauge your white balance. Coin appears to be mint state but I can't read the luster at all. Why are you so confident about it being cleaned? Did it lose the cartwheel luster? A few stains or toning doesn't necessarily mean the coin has been cleaned.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add I6609 to your friends list
I would go back and have a very nice conversation with him about what you now no. Not that he is obligated to do anything. But if he wants your business maybe some kind of in store credit or maybe not. But if you are nice about it they may work with you. It would tell me personally weather or not I would do further business with them.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  10:36 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Are we talking chemically cleaned? I don't see hairlines that would indicate brushing or rubbing.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucidfind to your friends list
I am unsure of the cleaning method used, TPG deemed it cleaned, I think in the upper left of the reverse I can make out some faint cleaning. Maybe these images are better.

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Excellent photos!
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Cleaned for sure.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
MUCH better pictures, it has been lightly cleaned, at least no SOS pad job. It appears to be an older cleaning as the coin has somewhat retoned. It's still pretty nice, like no hits or major distractions. It's a good candidate for a long window sill retone.

I've been around many questionable 31S's. A nice, problem MS/AU coin still typically trades in the Good/Fine grade ranges depending on the problem and how the coin looks. All is not lost...

I take it you bought this raw and sent it in yourself? If the dealer you bought it from is smart and reasonable, just explain what happened to him. I have a good relationship with my fav local shop - he would instantly refund what I paid him. That's not a bad deal for either of you really, he can still sell it in the cleaned slab for G money and you are made whole.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
I call BS on the TPG for tagging it cleaned. Old cleaning yes but I've seen far worse in a straight holder.

They WANT you to crack and resubmit it. That is their biz model nowadays.
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 Posted 01/24/2025  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Does the coin have cartwheel luster?
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 Posted 01/25/2025  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i'd call it AU58 straight. was it cleaned? maybe but if it was, it was light enough that it should have graded straight imo
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