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Provincial Coins Of Utrecht

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 Posted 09/29/2024  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Gorgeous examples!

Can we look forward to snaphaans and schellings?

@Hondo, the term "Provincial" is usually taken to mean after the formation of the Dutch Republic, so probably a Philip II type is considered Lordship of Utrecht/Spanish Netherlands rather than Provincial.
Likewise, I've got coins from the Bishopric of Utrecht, which is yet another entity, but none from Province of Utrecht.
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Can we look forward to snaphaans and schellings?

I hope so...
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 Posted 09/29/2024  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list
tdziemia, thank you for the information. I really know very little about Utrecht. I picked up my coin for $2 (or was it 50¢?) at a coin show a while back, figuring a silver coin from 1571 was probably worth more than that.
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 Posted 09/29/2024  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Nice coins!
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 Posted 09/30/2024  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Nice coins. Good theme. But why Utrecht over say, Zeeland?
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Utrecht is my original home town and where my family lives.
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 Posted 09/30/2024  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
My kids lived in Holland and Zeeland MI. We'd sometimes go out to Drenthe for ice cream.

I just got back from Lynden WA, another of the US sub-provinces. I always load up on Sinas Snippers, bankets and speculoos. They're hard to find anywhere else.
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I sometimes buy speculaas and gevulde koeken online.
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Lovely coins, thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 10/06/2024  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list

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I always load up on Sinas Snippers, bankets and speculoos. They're hard to find anywhere else.


If you have a Trader Joe's near you, they carry a brand of speculoos imported from Belgium, at $2.29 which fits my cookie budgety nicely. The Biscoff brand is available in manys stores near me, though pricey. I think my wife picks them up when they go on sale.

Yep, I like them too (result of living in Belgium a couple of years).
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In the US immigrant towns it's easiest to find imported food shops, but the Dutch and Scandinavians came so long ago there aren't many left. In Lynden WA there are enough Dutch descendants to support it. I've never seen any place else selling 5 lb chubs of almond paste, and whole aisles of imported condiments and cookies. Across the border in BC it's the same thing with Ukrainian foods. Huge numbers immigrated to the lower Fraser valley over 100 years. 10 miles north of the US Dutch stores I buy Ukrainian perogies (varenikis) and sausage.

My interest in Dutch coins stems partly from association with the US immigrants, combined with the Spanish colonial connection. Lately it has been in patagons.
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 Posted 12/10/2024  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
What do you think of this one? https://www.ebay.com/itm/256728582184
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 Posted 12/14/2024  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Well, first I think it would have been nice if the seller named the coin correctly

Since you already have a later type of the silver ducat, I assume this means you'd like to add an example of the early type. Because they are large and hammered, they suffer from the normal issues: uneven strikes and irregular planchets (shape and other defects). So to find one with good eye appeal that is also slabbed is not so easy.

A few examples of recent sales I could find:
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=6209
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=4997
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...97&lot=29696
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9046980

High grade unslabbed examples:
https://ha-europe.com/en/browse/coi...ay_2019/6427
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=8324





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Since you already have a later type of the silver ducat, I assume this means you'd like to add an example of the early type.

That is correct.
I did notice the wrong name for the coin on ebay, but didn't bother informing the seller.
Comparing the auction prices to that of the listed Ducat, it seems the coin is overpriced by 30%.
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