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Here's the deal, went through 3 coin dealers here in NY and they can appraise and help with sending into grade coins. This one has them all stumped. the coin weighs 3.1 grams, it was tested with a 300lb earth magnet, and is NOT magnetic. it measures and weighs like it should. The date has not been altered in anyway shape or form. Now on to the photos, this is what stumps everyone. the bluish photos, are taken with a microscope. the copper looking photos are taken with a 30x loop and a flash camera. your thoughts please should this coin be sent in to be graded? that's where I am at now. Many Thanks in advance, Dan         |
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Bedrock of the Community
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 to the CCF, dan81! While I can't rule out the extremely remote possibility that you have an authentic copper 1943 cent, it's more likely that this is a modern reproduction from China - they are readily available online. Go ahead and send it it for certification - but please report back with the results.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Unfortunately, I'm in the fake camp. The rim, the date & Abe's face, IMO, do not look right.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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One-look Chinese copy. Any reputable dealer should know this. You can buy these online (with the broad, flat rim) for little money. to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
12/05/2024 3:32 pm
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New Member
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thank you all for the reply, I really do wish there was a way to do a carbon dating test on this, before hand.
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New Member
United States
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I found this after cashing a check. I seen a wheat back and was floored when I seen the date. Hence needing to know prior to grading, are there and specific was on testing or knowing if or if not, this is real? There has to be a tall tell sign of sorts am I right?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm thinking bogus as well. The area around Abe's mouth seems off--same with the bowtie. And, the reverse looks questionable.
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New Member
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The bowtie was my first go to. "it does stand out" but I did find a few older pennies with the same features so had to rule it out, the head hair area has a different feature than the 1944 but again if you look through the years his head changes. so I started with my collection from 1939 up to 1944 and other than the steel pennies nothing real to match it to. Hence my problem, and I think a lot of others have this problem. with other coins there is usually a coin available to compare it to. but the 1943 copper, not so much, we have the coated steel, aka the bronze, right? but it may be different due to the fact that one of the mints were constantly fixing their plates, hence the reason the D is not on this coin and it is a no mark. Sorry a bit of history there, did a lot of research on this type of coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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As noted, that rim looks pretty fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
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As seen on Forty Thieves:  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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New Member
United States
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thanks again everyone :)
The forty thief's thing the bow tie is different but comparing this coin of mine to the bronze there are two differences I see. Now, whether or not these matter or are these two differences due to wear, I don't know, the bow tie, and the back of the head the shape is a bit off. thank you for something to compare it to. I mean I'm still in the air on if this could be real, how could this have ended up in change?
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Pillar of the Community
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to the CCF If the three-coin dealers couldn't tell if this is a fake, I'd stay away from the three-coin dealers. All you need to do is compare it to any Lincoln from that era to see it's 100% fake. The face is comical. Quote:
how could this have ended up in change? Probably cost less than a dollar, no big loss to put it in circulation.
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12/05/2024 4:04 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Boy, I'd love to know who those 3 coin dealers are.
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Forum Dad
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It's without a doubt fake. See the die chip on the inside of the left wheat stalk? It's been found on the reverses of at least 10 different date/mm wheat reverses, including all the key dates. They use the same reverse die on many different combos. By no means does its absence mean it's real, but its presence means it's an absolute fake.  |
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Posted 12/05/2024 3:28 pm
