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 Posted 04/22/2023  9:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add loonielewy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have most of my sets still in the box, but not all of them. I tried to pull my 2003 set today, and the 2002 and 2004 came out with it. 2002 and 2004 were in the box still, the 2003 was just in the green leather. I had them squeezed pretty hard to fill the shelf, and the leather ended up stuck to the boxes on each side of it. I mean stuck! Like they were glued together. It was a challenge to separate them without damage. Got one side ok, but the other peeled just a bit of the leather surface off. Now stuck to the 2004 box.

So, fair warning, don't sandwich your sets like I did.

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 Posted 04/22/2023  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh my! that sucks. What proof sets do you have that are in leather OGP?
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 Posted 04/23/2023  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry and painful story to read.
This sort of problem is common with RAM proof material with fancy packaging, that has faux leatherette covering on the presentation boxes.
In humid storage conditions, just as easy to damage the faux leatherette, when it sticks to a 'protective'? slipcase.

Can reduce the value of the sets by 50% or more, even if the coins inside remain in pristine condition.

I have seen the comment:
"buy the coin, not the slab"
Not a parallel case with proof coin packaging,- you buy the coin and the packaging as a single item, and if the packaging is damaged in any way, the value of the lot is considerably reduced.

There have been occasions where I have taken advantage of this, and have bought NCLT silver proof coins at near bullion prices.
In almost all cases such as this, I throw the damaged packaging to garbage, and just keep the encapsulated coins.
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 Posted 04/23/2023  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So far I have not had this problem BUT I have not looked at them for some time now.
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 Posted 04/23/2023  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex A to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear that. Can you post some pics of what happened?
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mcshilling, I hope you checked today.

Here's a couple pics. Had to wait for my limit to be reset today.



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While that tear hurts a whole bunch, I was expecting a long separation of the leather from the box. I wonder if it is repairable. I have seen leather repair kits before, but I'm not sure how good it works.
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This has been a problem for a number of years with these packs. If you recall when you get them in the box from the RCM, they are wrapped in tissue paper in the box... If you are squeezing these onto a shelf or in a box, either keep the tissue it is shipped with or separate them with a sheet of kitchen parchment paper.
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If you are squeezing these onto a shelf or in a box, either keep the tissue it is shipped with or separate them with a sheet of kitchen parchment paper.
Good advice!
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Dearborn, like sel says, it's all about the whole package with proof sets, and I didn't even get the box with this one, so a little hole is no reason to try to repair it.

vonigohcr, parchment would work way better than the tissue paper, it would get torn very quickly. Very flimsy.

Chalk it up to lesson learned. No more cramming them together. Hope I saved some grief for some members.
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I may have some empty proof boxes & cases for you to pick up for free if you are in Toronto? (or perhaps pay for shipping to you)

I was planning to throw them out lol.
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 Posted 05/06/2023  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erscolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not had any issues with my proof sets, all of which I have in their original packaging, from 1981-2013 and 2020-2023. I have always found that keeping all the packaging does not hurt. It may take space but the space is worth it. Thank you for the heads up though.
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 Posted 05/07/2023  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wisonwu89:
You could well prove to be loonielewy's hero !
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