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Robert Gurney's Counterfeit Portrait Eight Reales, Anyone Have Read This?

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 Posted 12/16/2024  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fireandice556 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi. I finally got my copy last week of Robert Gurney's (@swamperbob) Counterfeit Portrait Eight Reales : The Un-real Reales.



I skip-browse and skip-read some portions and subject. It's a very comprehensive book, from backgrounders and specific references in coverage on the subject (Fake portrait 8R of Carlos III, Carlos IV and Ferdinand VII). Very thick book.

For those who have read or browse the book, I would need some advise. I had corresponded with Bob a few months ago, but I believe he is busy IRL.

I'm from Southeast Asia and collected Spanish Colonial 8R Pillars and Portraits, a number of which were bought via ebay. Decades before, I've been clueless about numismatic fakes and counterfeits. Way back when I joined this forum, I was exposed to the reality. Swamperbob was kind enough to give me heads up and reviewed some of my collection. He found a number of my Pillars that were obvious and not-so-obvious fakes. Discouraged, this made me stop collecting these types when I was in quandary on how to meticulously inspect a specimen locally.

I want to move on and start collecting again with my minimal knowledge. I would ask for your advises on which part of the book would be much relevant to jump start me on Pillars and Portraits, considering my location. Everytime I see doubling legends, uneven surface or "bloated letters", I immediately suspect it to be fake or good cast.

Hoping to learn more with a tool in hand.
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 Posted 12/17/2024  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I have it, and I have been in contact same as you.
But I would need the same sort of help.
I even posted a coin a while back hoping to get a Swamperbob commentary.
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 Posted 12/17/2024  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy, I'd enjoy reading that!
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 Posted 12/17/2024  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was 8/20/24 but made a mistake in the title by not stating the country, date & denomination.
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 Posted 12/18/2024  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have it and have read it, and keep it as a reference. Swamperbob used to post here occasionally and may still do so.
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 Posted 12/18/2024  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add threefifty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a great book. If you're trying to avoid counterfeits, I think the most important section is "Clues for Diagnosing a Class 2 Silver Counterfeit".
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 Posted 12/19/2024  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget since SOME of the photos were third party and blurred/poor I am still selling a 2CD pack of all the Class 1 coinages in a zoom-in/zoom-out capabilities on ebay at material cost ($1.99) plus shipping. If you wish to collect Class 1 CCC8R's its a recommended purchase. Just search for it as I believe although this is just reference material no ebay link is allowed. You can contact me privately for further information. John Lorenzo (Co-Author).
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 Posted 12/19/2024  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the CD's
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