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 Posted 12/16/2024  4:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I enjoyed seeing the recent Russian coins posted and the replies.
So I was inspired to post this Siberia coin and ask any experts about what they see? I'm not familiar with coins like this, so I was interested in knowing what others think about the details?
What tell-tale signs or smoking guns there may be that points to legit coin or obvious non-authentic piece?

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 Posted 12/16/2024  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting example. Looking forward to the discussion.
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 Posted 12/16/2024  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't help, but a cool-looking coin.
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 Posted 12/16/2024  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is made from copper. Yours doesn't look copper, though that could be a trick of the light. The crown on the reverse looks rather dodgy compared to the image on numista. And the animals.... well...

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 Posted 12/16/2024  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I agree and I noticed how non-brown my images are compared to the coin in hand.
I snapped it again for better color
Never been very good with a brown coin.
Ends up not being so brown at all.
This is closer to true.
I must have forgotten how to make a photo- can't get the other side to look how it is in hand.
And yes I see the animals are pretty far off!
Thank you for the online pictures!
It's not hard to see plenty of differences when I compare side by side on the album page I'm making.
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 Posted 12/17/2024  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Style suggests illegal contemporary counterfeit.
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I suppose the motivation would be the high value I've found online for a genuine piece?
I've seen a description as rare and a couple for sale at $1,300 & $3,300
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Sibirskaya Moneta / Denga / 1764, yes, but this little denezhka is probably a novodel.
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