Maria Theresa Thaler 1780. Restrike Or Fake

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Akf New Member Lebanon 17 Posts	Posted 09/25/2024 1:23 pm Hi all, is this a restrike or a fake? Report this Post to the Staff

mrwiskers Pillar of the Community United States 1000 Posts	Posted 09/25/2024 4:41 pm AFK ... it would help to weigh the coin, measure it's diameter & thickness, test it with a magnet, & post your results ... ...& as I've been often reminded ... handle your coins with gloves, as the oil from your skin can deteriorate & significantly reduce the value of a coin ... Report this Post to the Staff
NumisRob Bedrock of the Community United Kingdom 16067 Posts	Posted 09/26/2024 04:34 am A photo of the edge would also be helpful. My Trade List: http://goccf.com/t/194596 My Wants List: http://goccf.com/t/191710 Report this Post to the Staff
jecz79 Valued Member Portugal 444 Posts	Posted 09/26/2024 8:31 pm At that age and condition handling that coin without gloves will not do anything to it Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16181 Posts	Posted 09/27/2024 12:44 am If the weight is correct, and the edge looks normal, I'd assume it's a restrike. There's no premium for counterfeiting a high-quality fake Maria Theresa restrike thaler, as they're just bullion coins. I think many of the telltale markers to help identify which mint and time-period this coin may have been struck, have been worn away. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 324 Posts	Posted 11/25/2024 12:05 am I agree with Sap. Very worn. The tall cross in the small shield in the middle of the reverse makes me think it's from Vienna Mint, and the saltire X after the date makes me think late 19th century. Without seeing details from the edge I can't be much more help. I love the splendid die crack at "CO TYR"! Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12041 Posts	Posted 11/27/2024 1:20 pm Just wanted to add that MTT's were, in fact, counterfeited. I've seen a couple of crudely cast copies in silver-washed pewter that likely date from the 1910-1920 range and are almost certainly of African origin. There are websites that can help you attribute these coins based on things like the number of pearls in the diadem, the lines in the shields, etc. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
Spyro Valued Member United Kingdom 324 Posts	Posted 11/28/2024 03:59 am If you google Hafner Taler Database one of the first answers you'll get will be Theresia Name. If you click on that you'll find it's a really comprehensive printable database. It's a bit old now but still very good. It's quite complex so read the first part thoroughly before diving in. You will be amazed at the varieties! Have fun! Report this Post to the Staff
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