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 Posted 06/27/2023  7:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Some sort of a Spain / Portugal / Pirate imitation?
Holed for a charm bracelet or pendant.
Size of a 2 reales?
Anyone know the right attribution?
What it's supposed to be?
20mm 4 grams



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 Posted 06/28/2023  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a mutilated portuguese coin. The designs, the shield, would be simpler than those.
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 Posted 06/28/2023  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Potosi pillars-style 2 Reales, 17?1 (that middle digit, the decade, is muddled).

Likely a cast imitation for jewelry. POSSIBLY could be a genuine piece that has been heavily worked (the edge is carved into some kind of zoomorphic or other ornate design)... but it looks cast.
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 Posted 06/28/2023  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much for the reply.
Since my post, and with your reply, I came across Peru, Lima mint, 2 Reales, agree on 7-blundered2?-1
4 grams and specific gravity is 6.87- certainly not silver.
Not that it is- but what it may imitate.
Has what looks like a visible seam as a casting in a mold partly obscured by refected light.
Can you explain Potosi Pillars?
Is that just a design?
So a piece can have "Potosi Pillars" with a simple "L" as a mint mark?
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 Posted 06/29/2023  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can you explain Potosi Pillars?
Is that just a design?

You have misread. "Potosi" is the mintmark. "Pillars-style" is the design type.

Given it is a tourist replica, there may be some... creative license... with the design. If the original coin they copied from had missing details (as was often the case), they may have extrapolated new details, or just made up stuff.

That serrated edge down one side looks artificial to me, rather than a shape a genuine cob coin would attain, even after seawater corrosion. Wouldn't surprise me if it was sold by Disney or some other tourist trap as a "Pirate bottle opener", or some such.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I read with interest in the first pages of my catalog that the type is "Pillars & Waves".
So yes I misread "Potosi Pillars".
The waves bow up in the middle on Potosi coins and bow down in the middle on Lima coins.
One of those small details a novice such as I won't see at first but experts like members here with experience readily notice.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The visible seam is evidence that the item was cast.

It's a vague imitation of an old coin, not a serious replica. It isn't an imitation of anything specific.
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 Posted 06/29/2023  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a better understanding of this piece now.
I knew it was a junk pendant trinket- but what?
After the replies and after the catalog, I took another shot correctly rotated.
I see the wave bow up in the center, a clear 2 on top and a P in the upper left corner for Potosi.
So a Potosi mint mark must mean Bolivia?
Or did the Potosi mint strike coins for other countries?
If so, those might be the monogram instead of the plain P?
Maybe I should search and read up on the Potosi mint.
One aspect about my hobby is that, even though some pieces are worthless junk, still one needs to understand what they are supposed to be. To that end even worthless junk has educational value.
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