Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Ken's Numismatic eBay Store US and World Coins, Bullion, and Exonumia. Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer
Subscribe to our Youtube Channel! Check out our Pinterest!
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.
Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some coins?
Our coin forum is completely free! Register Now!

ASE 20th Anniversary Set Getting Toned.

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 3,143Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
Spider5689's Avatar
United States
2269 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2012  12:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Back in 2006 I purchased the ASE Silver Eagle Set and it was beautiful to look at. Not a sign of any kind of toning. I just looked at the set for the first time since and I noticed the Proof Eagle is taking on a deep Blueish, Purple tone on the reverse and part of the Obverse. It's an nice even tone, but I am considering selling the set on the bay and I am wondering if it will affect the price in a negative way. Also for some other reason the Reverse Proof and the Uncirculated W have no signs of toning on them.

Thank you,

Christopher

*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
Pillar of the Community
SaintRidley's Avatar
United States
592 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2012  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaintRidley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps leave it be and see how the toning progresses? It may turn out quite attractive and perhaps impact any selling price in a positive way? I don't know much about how toning affects price, so I'm just making a guess.
Valued Member
JamieSpat's Avatar
Australia
119 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2012  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JamieSpat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some collectors prefer toned coins. It gives it that "distinguished" look.
Pillar of the Community
Tim Stroud's Avatar
United States
2661 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2012  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I have seen on the bay toned coins then to go for more $. Even the heavily artificial toned ones sell for well over FMV.
Pillar of the Community
Spider5689's Avatar
United States
2269 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2012  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to hear that It isn't going to affect the value in a negative way. I was a bit worried about the toning. The only thing I couldn't understand was why only the proof took on a bluish purple tone and not the other two.
Valued Member
Guido's Avatar
United States
390 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning is an interesting thing on ebay. You have to be careful of fake toned coins. Look at this seller and these auctions:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-P-MORG...em256fe8750f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-O-MORG...em256feadb3f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1898-P-MORG...em256fe88420

And he has a bunch of other toned Morgans with simlar toning (they all look like they were "toned" the same way or kept in the same place together). That makes me really suspicious (as does his disclaimer of "buy the coin not the slab blah blah) to cover his ass. But they may be legit, but you would have to send them to a TPG to know for sure if it's natural or not.

I agree that toned coins bring more money because they look so cool compared to untoned coins. You may have a great coin once it finishes whatever it going to do. I just look at some of these ebay sellers and really question what they are selling. I really like how the Morgan's look with toning, though. :)

Can you post up a picture of your ASE? I'd like to see how it looks. :)
Pillar of the Community
CaptainFwiffo's Avatar
United States
4132 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bedrock of the Community
basebal21's Avatar
13014 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I might be in the minority on this but I'm not a big fan of toning. Well I guess it depends on the type of toning, some toning does greatly enhance a coin, but I've seen some real high end toned coins that I thought looked terrible.

That said they were much older coins and I doubt that would apply to your ASEs anytime in the near future
Pillar of the Community
Foxwoods Man's Avatar
United States
4901 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you do find that the toning negatively affects the selling price just swap out the proof and replace it with a non-toned coin. It is not unique to the set...

The present feeling towards toning by the grading companies is VERY suspicious. IF they decide the toning is natural in origin they usually drop the coin a grade or two when the assign a number. This was not the practice years ago when they would add a star to a great looking coin's grade.
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
But they may be legit, but you would have to send them to a TPG to know for sure if it's natural or not.


There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that. There is a 100% chance that those coins were artificially toned, probably through the use of chemical accelerates.
Pillar of the Community
wquinn's Avatar
United States
2295 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The toning is from how and where you store your coins. Are they out in the open? Are they near some paper or cardboard? How is the humidity level?
Pillar of the Community
Foxwoods Man's Avatar
United States
4901 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that. There is a 100% chance that those coins were artificially toned, probably through the use of chemical accelerates.


Really? So this collector states he looked at his coins purchased years ago and one is toning and you think it's because he used "chemical accelerates"?
Obviously you have never left an ASE on a shelf for a couple of years...this is the result:





Silver tarnishes...some call it toning
Edited by Foxwoods Man
05/10/2012 11:28 am
Pillar of the Community
CaptainFwiffo's Avatar
United States
4132 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Really? So this collector states he looked at his coins purchased years ago and one is toning and you think it's because he used "chemical accelerates"?

I believe biokemist6 is referring to the toned coins on ebay which are clearly AT jobs. I a scale of 1 "Halloween night skittles vomit" to 10 "This would fool a lot of people" they rank about a 3.
Pillar of the Community
Foxwoods Man's Avatar
United States
4901 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree but the OP had questions about the toning of his coins and this looks like a VERY broad generalization:


Quote:
There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that.


Look at my ASE....does it look artificially toned...if you're honest the answer would be "yes"........

but..I know how it occurred and it was not even intentional on my part. I just forgot it on top of a large file cabinet
Pillar of the Community
CaptainFwiffo's Avatar
United States
4132 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, it doesn't look AT to me. It's got that "crusty" quality that seems very hard to replicate, and it's only toned on one side which I can hardly recall seeing on AT coins but is common on naturally toned coins.

The more important question - what material was that cabinet made of, and what was the temperature and humidity? I've got some boring white coins sitting around...
Edited by CaptainFwiffo
05/10/2012 1:46 pm
Pillar of the Community
M0nks's Avatar
United States
1770 Posts
 Posted 05/10/2012  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
never cared for toning either on any coin
  Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 3,143Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2025 Coin Community Forums
It took 1.21 seconds to rattle this change. Forums