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Back in 2006 I purchased the ASE Silver Eagle Set and it was beautiful to look at. Not a sign of any kind of toning. I just looked at the set for the first time since and I noticed the Proof Eagle is taking on a deep Blueish, Purple tone on the reverse and part of the Obverse. It's an nice even tone, but I am considering selling the set on the bay and I am wondering if it will affect the price in a negative way. Also for some other reason the Reverse Proof and the Uncirculated W have no signs of toning on them. Thank you, Christopher *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Perhaps leave it be and see how the toning progresses? It may turn out quite attractive and perhaps impact any selling price in a positive way? I don't know much about how toning affects price, so I'm just making a guess.
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Some collectors prefer toned coins. It gives it that "distinguished" look.
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From what I have seen on the bay toned coins then to go for more $. Even the heavily artificial toned ones sell for well over FMV.
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Glad to hear that It isn't going to affect the value in a negative way. I was a bit worried about the toning. The only thing I couldn't understand was why only the proof took on a bluish purple tone and not the other two.
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Toning is an interesting thing on ebay. You have to be careful of fake toned coins. Look at this seller and these auctions: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-P-MORG...em256fe8750fhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/1884-O-MORG...em256feadb3fhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/1898-P-MORG...em256fe88420And he has a bunch of other toned Morgans with simlar toning (they all look like they were "toned" the same way or kept in the same place together). That makes me really suspicious (as does his disclaimer of "buy the coin not the slab blah blah) to cover his ass. But they may be legit, but you would have to send them to a TPG to know for sure if it's natural or not. I agree that toned coins bring more money because they look so cool compared to untoned coins. You may have a great coin once it finishes whatever it going to do. I just look at some of these ebay sellers and really question what they are selling. I really like how the Morgan's look with toning, though. :) Can you post up a picture of your ASE? I'd like to see how it looks. :)
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I might be in the minority on this but I'm not a big fan of toning. Well I guess it depends on the type of toning, some toning does greatly enhance a coin, but I've seen some real high end toned coins that I thought looked terrible.
That said they were much older coins and I doubt that would apply to your ASEs anytime in the near future
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If you do find that the toning negatively affects the selling price just swap out the proof and replace it with a non-toned coin. It is not unique to the set...
The present feeling towards toning by the grading companies is VERY suspicious. IF they decide the toning is natural in origin they usually drop the coin a grade or two when the assign a number. This was not the practice years ago when they would add a star to a great looking coin's grade.
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Quote:But they may be legit, but you would have to send them to a TPG to know for sure if it's natural or not. There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that. There is a 100% chance that those coins were artificially toned, probably through the use of chemical accelerates.
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The toning is from how and where you store your coins. Are they out in the open? Are they near some paper or cardboard? How is the humidity level?
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Quote:There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that. There is a 100% chance that those coins were artificially toned, probably through the use of chemical accelerates. Really? So this collector states he looked at his coins purchased years ago and one is toning and you think it's because he used "chemical accelerates"? Obviously you have never left an ASE on a shelf for a couple of years...this is the result:   Silver tarnishes...some call it toning
Edited by Foxwoods Man 05/10/2012 11:28 am
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Quote: Really? So this collector states he looked at his coins purchased years ago and one is toning and you think it's because he used "chemical accelerates"? I believe biokemist6 is referring to the toned coins on ebay which are clearly AT jobs. I a scale of 1 "Halloween night skittles vomit" to 10 "This would fool a lot of people" they rank about a 3.
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I agree but the OP had questions about the toning of his coins and this looks like a VERY broad generalization: Quote:There is zero chance that toning is legit and I do not need a TPG to tell me that. Look at my ASE....does it look artificially toned...if you're honest the answer would be "yes"........ but..I know how it occurred and it was not even intentional on my part. I just forgot it on top of a large file cabinet
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Honestly, it doesn't look AT to me. It's got that "crusty" quality that seems very hard to replicate, and it's only toned on one side which I can hardly recall seeing on AT coins but is common on naturally toned coins.
The more important question - what material was that cabinet made of, and what was the temperature and humidity? I've got some boring white coins sitting around...
Edited by CaptainFwiffo 05/10/2012 1:46 pm
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never cared for toning either on any coin
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