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US Counterstamp On Spanish Coin?
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Old Post Posted 02/15/2025  06:47 am
3 cent silvers were heavily counterfeited. I wonder if this is a counterfeiter's test piece rather than something associated with the mint.
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Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit Vs. War Of Independence Mother Coin Prototype
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Old Post Posted 01/20/2025  07:03 am
Interesting piece John. I lean towards your coin not being a Chihuahua prototype and instead being a cast CCC... because I don't think the Stacks "prototype" piece is from 1810 or 1811, but rather 1812 (or even a CCC, as there is a somewhat paper that documents Chihuahua pieces were counterfeited). Both types pomegranate stamps observed on 1811 Chihuahua pieces are relatively clear and detailed. In 1812 it becomes a low relief blob. The Stacks "prototype" has an 1812 stamp.

Edit - wanted to add that I think the Lima imaginary bust would have also been less acceptable to the public for a genuine issue from Chihuahua. A couple of Riddell #69-family issues use that bust, but they are dated 1818, I would think they were made outside of Mexico.
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An 1832 Cap And Ray From Durango At 24.0 Grams. Poorly Silvered CCc Or Regal?
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Old Post Posted 01/06/2025  12:57 pm
Hi colonialjohn - just my opinion, but 24 g seems much too low to have detail remaining and be genuine. My take is that this is a counterfeit, perhaps struck with the dies that Riddell claimed were "abstracted" from the mint. Did you do a specific gravity test?
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Potosi, Philipv, 2nd Period 2 Reales "Bit" ?counterfeit?
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Old Post Posted 12/30/2024  12:47 pm
Mr. Wiskers - to answer your question, there are other types of imitation cobs, from Tucuman, Argentina, and Leon, Nicaragua. I'm new to those types but thought I would add to the discussion.
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Robert Gurney's Counterfeit Portrait Eight Reales, Anyone Have Read This?
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Old Post Posted 12/18/2024  11:41 pm
It's a great book. If you're trying to avoid counterfeits, I think the most important section is "Clues for Diagnosing a Class 2 Silver Counterfeit".
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Looking For Info On This 1813 Zs Fp 8 Reales
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Old Post Posted 10/27/2024  10:13 am
I think Stack's is the right place for this coin. It's a super nice example, I have one that is very weakly struck, looks kind of like a slug with the outer legends visible. Yours would have sold on Ebay but probably wouldn't have gotten the best price.
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1811 Zacatecas Lvo Contemporary Counterfeit
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Old Post Posted 10/21/2024  10:32 pm
John, thanks for responding. I saw the pictures of your two pieces on your other group a while back. My opinion is that your Type II "royal arms LVO (ZAGATECAS) is a CCC. The 1810 Local Arms 8R I am not so sure about... I think it is either genuine or a modern forgery as it is almost too well done. I think your new analysis will be helpful for that piece, perhaps not necessary for my forgery as there seem to be many others out there from the same mold.

Thanks for taking a look, realeswatcher! This "mold progression" is entertaining. I wonder if the forger was trying to avoid creating a bunch of exact copies since the originals vary so much.
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1811 Zacatecas Lvo Contemporary Counterfeit
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Old Post Posted 10/18/2024  8:39 pm
I saw this one coming up in Soler y Llach's auction. It doesn't seem like an exact match like my modern forgery, but the date still looks weird like it was re-engraved on the die. I am leaning towards forgery since the flaws seem to match across the two coins and in both cases the weight was lower than standard.

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...8583&lot=412
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Counterfeit 8 Reales - Interesting Newspaper Mention From 1854
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Old Post Posted 07/28/2024  5:27 pm
I ran across this recently - thought it was interesting to see a contemporary reference of one of the topics frequently discussed here:
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Progress On Cap & Ray Counterfeit 8 Reales Book.
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Old Post Posted 07/23/2024  5:05 pm
Great news! Glad you are making progress, it sounds like quite the undertaking.
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Contemporary Counterfeit Ferdin VII 1 Real
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Old Post Posted 05/31/2024  2:14 pm
I got XRF results today. They are:

59% Cu
14% Ni
27% Zn

Looks like German silver to me!
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Help Identifying Silver Islamic Coin
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Old Post Posted 05/09/2024  09:01 am
Have you heard of Henry Every and the Ganj-i-Sawai? There is a theory that some of the treasure made its way to New England.
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Counterfeits Of Cast Silver Sud - Any Pictures?
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Old Post Posted 04/11/2024  3:35 pm
A couple cast pieces showed up on Ebay yesterday, was interesting to see NGC might be tightening their standards on these?





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Contemporary Counterfeit Ferdin VII 1 Real
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Old Post Posted 04/04/2024  4:37 pm
Cool thread! I bought the recent one. I'll try to get an XRF sometime in the next few months.
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Kleebergs - Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit 2 Reales
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Old Post Posted 03/09/2024  09:34 am
I saw that a nice one sold on Ebay yesterday - it was grouped in with some other low grade minors.





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An 1813 Mexican Chihuahua Cast Showing Signs Of Striking?
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Old Post Posted 01/29/2024  4:16 pm
I just stumbled across this post and it brought to mind a similar piece that sold recently on Ebay. No idea what process caused this but I thought I would note the additional example.


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Kleebergs - Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit 2 Reales
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Old Post Posted 01/26/2024  8:10 pm
John - I sent you an email, let me know if you don't get it. Thank you!
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1843 Zs Om Zacatecas 8 Reales - Contemporary Counterfeit
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Old Post Posted 01/18/2024  7:54 pm
Thanks all for the replies! John1 - I didn't realize this was going to be my 100th post. I don't have much time to post so it will be a while before the next milestone, but I very much enjoy being a part of the community!

Albert - thanks for the response! Which books do you know of that discuss these? I didn't see too much discussion on counterfeits in Resplandores, and I know swamperbob is working on a book, but that's all I know of currently.
Forum: World Coins and Commemoratives
 
1843 Zs Om Zacatecas 8 Reales - Contemporary Counterfeit
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Old Post Posted 01/13/2024  8:29 pm
I haven't picked up many Cap and Ray counterfeits as I like the portrait series more. But this one looked good and my winning bid ended up being reasonable in my opinion. 26.75 g, specific gravity of 8.8. I like the crude date.




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1738 8 Reales Counterstamped - Ebay Auction From China
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Old Post Posted 12/24/2023  09:52 am
An unlikely host for the stamp, plus the edges of the coin are weirdly sharp, so the coin looks almost cylindrical. Add in the sellers feedback of 2... no way this is genuine.
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