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Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit Vs. War Of Independence Mother Coin Prototype
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threefifty
Valued Member
United States
117 Posts |
Posted 01/20/2025 07:03 am
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Interesting piece John. I lean towards your coin not being a Chihuahua prototype and instead being a cast CCC... because I don't think the Stacks "prototype" piece is from 1810 or 1811, but rather 1812 (or even a CCC, as there is a somewhat paper that documents Chihuahua pieces were counterfeited). Both types pomegranate stamps observed on 1811 Chihuahua pieces are relatively clear and detailed. In 1812 it becomes a low relief blob. The Stacks "prototype" has an 1812 stamp.
Edit - wanted to add that I think the Lima imaginary bust would have also been less acceptable to the public for a genuine issue from Chihuahua. A couple of Riddell #69-family issues use that bust, but they are dated 1818, I would think they were made outside of Mexico. |
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1811 Zacatecas Lvo Contemporary Counterfeit
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threefifty
Valued Member
United States
117 Posts |
Posted 10/21/2024 10:32 pm
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John, thanks for responding. I saw the pictures of your two pieces on your other group a while back. My opinion is that your Type II "royal arms LVO (ZAGATECAS) is a CCC. The 1810 Local Arms 8R I am not so sure about... I think it is either genuine or a modern forgery as it is almost too well done. I think your new analysis will be helpful for that piece, perhaps not necessary for my forgery as there seem to be many others out there from the same mold.
Thanks for taking a look, realeswatcher! This "mold progression" is entertaining. I wonder if the forger was trying to avoid creating a bunch of exact copies since the originals vary so much. |
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1843 Zs Om Zacatecas 8 Reales - Contemporary Counterfeit
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threefifty
Valued Member
United States
117 Posts |
Posted 01/18/2024 7:54 pm
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Thanks all for the replies! John1 - I didn't realize this was going to be my 100th post. I don't have much time to post so it will be a while before the next milestone, but I very much enjoy being a part of the community!
Albert - thanks for the response! Which books do you know of that discuss these? I didn't see too much discussion on counterfeits in Resplandores, and I know swamperbob is working on a book, but that's all I know of currently. |
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