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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 10:33 am

The overnight soak was referring to if it was polished post mint. I had to do another one a while back and things looked different after I removed polish. Ok thats good to know thank you. These lines don't move under light. I just had to put a bright light on it to even see them without magnification.

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 09:17 am

Also the lines are much wider than cleaning lines, like polish lines that were squeezed almost flat and were widened in the process which I assumed would be planchet polish lines

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 09:12 am

Thats why I gave it a over night acetone bath since
that was what I thought when I noticed the lines weren't into the coin but absolutely nothing changed. Seems like an overnight soak would at least remove enough polish to change the orientation of the lines but it came back out glossy like before and lines the same way. There's something different about this coin

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 08:48 am

I thought so too at once but when I went back through these just something about the details drew me to look at it again. Have a dozen cleaned ones to compare to and it just doesn't fit the bill. There's no luster even around the edges of the letters or inside of the hair as if the whole thing is a mirror.

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 08:27 am

There is not cartwheel but I think its because it reflects the light everywhere

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 08:25 am

Ive tilted it under a scope and loupe and they do not seem to be into the coin.. there are a few hairlines on it that have the normal shine but these show up differently. Gave it a long soak in acetone also cause it looks like it is glazed or something but nothing came off. These lines don't show nor shine with the naked eye even tilting under light. When I first got into morgans years ago I thought it was cleaned and put it in the cull case but now I'm not sure. This photo shows what it looks like in hand better, I had lighting at a certain angle and tilted the coin earlier to show the lines I described.

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1921 Morgan Dollar Planchet Polished?

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Posted 10/06/2023 01:59 am

Are the lines on the front in the field and on the face as well as the back fields from planchet polishing? This one is hard to photograph since both sides are uniformly mirrored. They don't look like normal die polish lines but not scratches either

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/29/2023 11:57 pm

Think I got a decent shot of the E.. hard to do with the toning. The top of the E where it hooks backwards is apparent as well. Tried to outline to make it a bit easier with the toning.

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/29/2023 5:20 pm

Well the clash under and in-between the "st" of trust is not there and I can't find the n clash off of the neck. The toning makes it a bit more difficult to check it

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/29/2023 09:13 am

The only thing thats different is the die crack/chip on the right side of the second 8 is smaller so I would assume it is earlier in the stage

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/29/2023 09:10 am

Yes that reference and they match exact.. it is a bit tougher to see because of the toning but if you know what you're looking for every one of them are in the pictures just posted

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/28/2023 11:04 pm

I forgot the crack or gouge through the bottom of Liberty

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/28/2023 10:53 pm

Originally I was seeing something else but had matched up all the progression markers so I knew I was in the right area.. the toning really brings the trip back.

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/28/2023 10:51 pm

It is definitely that stage, just not sure if it is one further.. attaching pics of the cap clash, date crack, left stars crack and another photo that may show the E better

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1927 Denver Peace Dollar

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Posted 09/28/2023 9:09 pm

Here is a recently graded and sold 1927 D AU-58 for comparison that tells the story for me I believe.

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1927 Denver Peace Dollar

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Posted 09/28/2023 8:54 pm

It graded AU-58 and with their picture I'm more convinced it is a 62 now than before. There are a lot of clash or file lines on both sides which can be misleading without magnification or a picture but actual marks/wear on the coin just don't lead me to believe it is the least bit circulated. The main pointers to my conclusion is the high point on the bottom of the neck showing undisturbed clash marks or thread like impressions and the undisturbed luster throughout.. but they are the pros. I was given a full set of uncirculated peace dollars decades ago that I'm confident were put away during those years and this was one of them or I would've been on the fence about sending it in.

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/13/2023 2:48 pm

Well I matched all clash marks and die markers I could find on vam 1b. Checked others and didnt see anything close to what this coin has

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/13/2023 2:45 pm

After looking at it more it looks like it was clashed again after the partial E and that is what I am seeing. I can see the original lines faintly and then another E that goes into the ribbon that lays more horizontal than the first sorta diagonal E

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/13/2023 2:33 pm

I covered some of the upper E up with the white, when it gets half way down the E does narrow some but is visible

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1887 Morgan Dollar VAM 1B Partial E But I Believe Its A Full E

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Posted 09/13/2023 2:23 pm

The red arrow points to the bottom horizontal of the E and the white kind of outlines it. Can surely see the lower horizontal on the ribbon and where it turns to finish the letter

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